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  1. AntiSoof

    Similarities are also the doubts about the existence of both DNA and the virus.
    It seems that there is a gamble that no one is asking questions about it.
    Infection with a virus, for example, never seems to have been demonstrated. Isolation from it is seen as impossible. So is DNA. Substances are found in cells, but it is doubtful whether these substances actually point to DNA.
    See, for example, Dr's Mark and Sam Bailey for a better explanation of viruses, and see Dr. Cowan for fun insights on DNA.

    I wouldn't mind if we were taken for a ride!

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    1. C

      We are sure we are in favor of the patch, the mouth patch among others. Substances in cells seems very vague to me, but I'll look up the dr's. That's how it should be. Maurice de Hond always works scientifically, but it is difficult to fight against obfuscation, sloppiness, framing and other misery. A few weeks ago my partner was sick, my adult child (proven to be my child) was in the car with me and on the way back I got the same symptoms as my partner and two days later my child also called me sick. No bacteria and we were all better 😉 soon

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    2. Godfather

      The Baileys are a bit over the top, but I still find it an interesting thought experiment to question the traditional theory.

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      1. Godfather

        P.S. what I do fully support is their position that melanoma is caused by sunburn rather than the sun.

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      2. AntiSoof

        Anton

        "The donors were infected with spray and drops inserted into the nose three days before the tournament date, again the day after."
        This spray would consist of rhinoviruses in an aqueous solution.
        My question: What is the evidence that those rhinoviruses were in that vial? My info says there is no proof. So then that poker experiment doesn't mean much either, even though maybe some people did catch a cold after that spray. (Of course, I want to prove the latter first.)

        So I don't see any evidence yet.

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      3. Anton Theunissen

        Well Antisophist,
        You'll never see that.
        Maybe the whole experiment is staged...
        Is it a coincidence that only the people who sprayed them got sick? Do you want a different name for what was in those bottles? What's the point?

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      4. AntiSoof

        What's the point?
        The point is that a scientific experiment must be well-defined. So there must be a description of how one gets that bottle and there must be a description (and proven) of what is in such a bottle. Look, someone can also (seem to) catch a cold because of an irritant in that bottle. We used to play with hellebore, for example. Then it seemed as if someone had caught a cold, but that was not the case. Pollen and the like also give symptoms that resemble a cold, but it is not a cold.

        If something like it doesn't correctly define what is being used, then the further experiment is invalid. Because, of course, an allergic reaction triggered by irritating material is not contagious, for example.

        Finally, it intrigues me that the correct, actual definition of virus is 'poison'. Because when we are dealing with toxins, the whole story of getting sick from viruses is also true.

        So if you refer to a scientific experiment as an argument, I will read that and criticize it if possible.

        N.B. Nowadays I take the basic attitude that illness such as a cold or flu is often a form of health; The body is trying to fix something that is broken or out of balance, or there is pollution involved such as environmental pollution. Bacteria, for example, seem to be 'helpers' to clean the place, neutralize the poison and process waste. If these bacteria are always found in certain diseases, it may be that they are not pathogens. Think of many firefighters at a fire. They are not the instigators, but the extinguishers. With this attitude, I can make a positive contribution to a quick recovery.
        But this is actually beside the point. (But I hope you understand where I feel about it.)

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      5. Anton Theunissen

        @AntiSoof: Shall we call it poison then? That's fine with me too.
        What matters is its infectiousness and that it is a type of poison that is multiplied by our own body and can be transmitted.
        This contagiousness is a 'viral' trait, just like a good joke or a social media viral is also spread.
        To distinguish between poison that does and poison that does not, the term 'virus' is in use. I think that's practical; It is important to distinguish infectious poisons and conditions from non-contagious ones.
        "Intranasal inoculation was performed with 560-2,400 TCJD50 of the safety-tested RV16 by pipette and spray on two consecutive days."
        Maar nogmaals: als je het rhinovirus in het flesje al niet vertrouwt, dan kan het hele experiment ook wel uit de duim gezogen zijn.

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