This article was published earlier today on Maurice.nl. Below is a (slightly corrected) version.
Only if we have a correct picture of what has taken place during the corona crisis in the past two years can we prepare for a similar situation in the future. After all, it is not inconceivable that a similar epidemic will occur again in about five years. Should we, in black and white, just like in 2017-2018 with the severe flu epidemic, just get on with our lives, or do we lock down the world again just like after March 2020 – and again without solid substantiation?
We have too little insight into the data in the Netherlands. The data are there, but no attempts are made to anonymize them so that they can be studied. The Sounding Board Group for the excess mortality study by CBS and RIVM also expressed concerns about this. As a result, there remains uncertainty about patients who were treated "with" or "by" corona. Ultimately, this results in doubts about the mortality rates and above all: causes of death. And this problem is not limited to corona. The "with-or-through" issue also relates to vaccinations. A death after vaccination does not indicate a cause of death. There is a possible cause, if you leave that possibility open.
Because there has been increasing mortality since the start of the vaccination campaigns, we have been asking for a scientific and convincing study since August 2021 to rule out the possibility that the vaccinations play a role in this increasing mortality. After all, it seems that it is unfortunately the case, correlations are imposed worldwide. The resistance to release causes of death is interpreted as a confirmation of the suspicion that something has been wrong with the approach to the fight against corona.
What makes registration complicated
Yesterday there was an interview with Gerard Spongin the AD. The article opens with "Corona brought top lawyer Gerard Spong (76) to the brink of death.†And a little later Spong himself says: "What complicated my situation: it turned out that I had a bacterial infection at the same time, staphylococci. Moreover, I turned out to have developed few antibodies, despite the vaccines.â€
Fortunately, after two days on a ventilator, Spong survived.
But he is a good illustration of the problem of the quality of the data: Was he really a Corona patient? He says that he was lying on the couch, had no appetite, and started giving wrong answers to questions. If you look at the list of corona symptoms again, you won't recognize much of this. A staphylococcal infection with early pneumonia could also explain the symptoms well. After all, an elderly man with a staphylococcal infection, which causes pneumonia, is not a rarity.
Was corona the cause?
The newspaper article certainly gives this impression. A case like this shows how complicated it can be to determine the effectiveness of a vaccine, for example – because Spong was well vaccinated and has also spoken out very firmly about vaccination: "The lives of a number of people are sacrificed to the freedom of certain people to refuse a vaccination.." said Spong at Op1 last year. Has the vaccine now protected him from the disease? Or at least saved him from certain death because without a vaccine it would all have been much worse?
Another view is that the vaccinations, which did not work very well with him anyway, have affected his immune system rather than strengthened it. “It turned out that I had developed few antibodies, despite the vaccines", says Spong.
Can you exhaust the immune system by continuing to stimulate it while it can no longer produce many antibodies? The immune system is unimaginably complex, ingenious and effective, we still don't know a lot about it. There are medical reports of dormant chronic conditions that resurface after vaccination. Shingles (herpes) has been reported more often, in Englandvaccinations against polioAnd then we also have the curious sudden revival of the monkeypox.
That justifies the question: If Spong had not been vaccinated, would he also have contracted a staphylococcal infection? If the vaccine increases the risk of other (also immunity-related) diseases, then that could well be the case. This directly affects the assessment of the safety of the vaccines.
The side effects we see with the mRNA vaccinations differ from those of the traditional vaccines. There are alsoHypothesesand in vitro studies of mechanisms that provide a diffuse picture of (chronic)Side effectsthese vaccines.
Fortunately, Gerard survived. But suppose someone in a similar situation but with a less strong constitution had passed away, how would his death be registered? Cause of death corona, staphylococci or vaccine?
A doctor will not fill in "vaccine" on the death certificate here. The image of a 76-year-old with pneumonia after a staphylococcal infection is too common for that. Would he fill in "corona" here? The journalist certainly does, just look at the opening sentence in which it is firmly claimed that corona was the cause of his admission. Did Spong have a positive PCR test? Probably yes, a lot of Dutch people were positive and the journalist will not have made up "corona" anyway. Maybe Spong had justOmicron-21, which can be quite an attack for a 76-year-old – but there is nothing about that in the article.
Would corona be mentioned on the necessary B form after death? In the event of a positive PCR test, no doubt (several things can be mentioned that can be linked to death). The doctor will not report the death to the RIVM as a corona death, but this is a person who died within 21 days of a positive test. Would the RIVM also note this person as a corona victim? In any case, CBS will receive a form on which corona is mentioned.
Dying of old age is no longer possible
After a number of conversations with general practitioners, it has become clear to us that most people die in this way. We used to call it "of old age" but nowadays we can't get away with it anymore, because maybe something could be done about it... Many people also die outside office hours. This means that doctors on duty or substitutes often have to fill in forms about patients they see for the first time. Without corona reports going to the RIVM or vaccine deaths to Lareb, CBS does receive the forms. This creates a discrepancy between the figures. That affects the statistics.
In some periods, CBS even counts more than 3 times as many corona deaths as the RIVM. Over the whole of 2021, it was 2.2 times as much. How can we make a realistic estimate of the influence of the various factors on the basis of general mortality figures, combined with other statistics? Only more openness of data may be able to tell us more and also whether we have done the right thing by taking drastic measures.
Tomorrow we will come back to the differences between the data from CBS and those from RIVM.
Maybe we will become a little wiser after all.
Very cautiously and with respect for dissenting opinions, I cannot escape the fact that the science surrounding corona has become a religion.
You stick to it completely, dismiss every doubter, reject every question, which could have a negative impact on their scientific views. Negative effects are ignored or, according to them, are certainly not a result of vaccination.
But in my humble opinion, that's not a good basis for establishing trust.
I know who I have believed in, and what I trust in. That is the designer and maker of my immune system, among other things. He also knows that diseases exist that can damage the immune system and that is why there are doctors and medicines to make you better again. They repair so that the biological immune system can perform its function again. I trust the knowledge and insights that these doctors have obtained.
I do not trust people who only want to enrich themselves by modifying an immune system, of which they only partially understand the workings, but at all costs continue to hold on to their way of thinking and goal: self-enrichment through manipulation and lies.
Of course, everyone is completely free to choose which religion he or she wants to adhere to.
"The lives of a number of people are sacrificed to the freedom of certain people to refuse a vaccination."
That Spong turns out to be a purebred fascist of the caliber of Adolf Suis.
that's how close that statement is to the ideas that have led to tens of thousands of
"Lebensunwerten" were murdered in German hospitals.
And that genius doesn't even realize that it was probably the vaccinations that brought him to the brink of death.
And now he is afraid that he will get it again despite his vaccinations and the fact that he has already had it once.
which just goes to show that some people are very good at one thing and absolutely retarded at another.
I do not share your conclusion regarding that Mr. Spong is a fascist, because I'm not going to talk about that and I don't want to judge.
Of course, the fanaticism with which the vaccination is defended and the search for a cause in the vaccine is invariably referred to as impossible. Not based on facts, but on faith.
The Bible, which I consider to be true, speaks of "a darkened mind and foolishness in one's own wisdom."
This book is also often quoted to defend one's own actions, but of course I didn't mean that here.
My big question is much more, how it is possible that intelligent people have just put aside common sense, as if they are numb. And then the serious question arises, whether such an ingredient has been added to the vaccine and people are therefore programmed.
I'm quite down-to-earth, but I find this quite disturbing.
Perhaps the ingredients of the vaccines should be looked at more closely by independent recognized scientists. Fortunately, they still exist.
This has nothing to do with the vaccine.
People were already disturbed before there was a vaccine.
How is it possible?
Professor Desmet, Mass Formotion
https://thebridgepontifex.com/2022/01/21/professor-mattias-desmets-theory-of-mass-formation-psychosis/
Goebbels was far ahead of his time.
I understand you. Scaring with disaster scenarios works enormously. I know that.
But there is really more going on now. Let me give a simple example.
Every car has a so-called circulation button, which shuts off the outside air and is used for temporary use. For example, to get the indoor temperature up faster, or to leave a stench from outside there. Very useful, but stands by: not too long, because otherwise you won't get fresh air! If we are talking about recirculation in buildings, that does not count. Headache complaints, germs.. Anyway, too many to mention. Maurice de Hond has said a lot about it.
But the government still hardly does anything about ventilation measures.
And it is accepted unquestioningly and very coincidentally perhaps, precisely vaccinated people think ventilation is great nonsense and propagate the air-recirculating mouth mask.
But no car manufacturer is being sued for non-information.
That is precisely why I believe that people are also drugged by the vaccine.
Why no ventilation?
Very simple: then there would be too few cases of disease.
The only active non-medicinal drug was not allowed to be used.
All the rest, masks, lockdowns etc are only meant to scare people so much that they do everything that is expected of them.
And the "vaccine" has nothing to do with the virus at all, but all the more with the aim of reducing the population.
such as the tetanus "vaccine" that was distributed in Ethiopia by the WHO in 2014 at the request and with financial support of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for Population Control, yes that's what it's really officially called!, but which then turned out to contain a substance that made women sterile.
Strange that you haven't read anything about this in the media, don't you think?
You would expect that heads would roll with such a big scandal....
Where does that chairman of the WHO come from again?
Just as you have not heard anything in the media that from the Pfizer documents as they had to be published by the FDA on the basis of a court judgment, it appears that of the 29 pregnancies of subjects in the Pfizer trial that ended during the course of the trial, only ONE, yes ONE! pregnancy has ended in a normal live birth.
you would expect it to be shouted from the rooftops....
If you now assume that all those lunatics with their conspiracy theories may not be so crazy after all and then look at the whole history again....
You may also find the answer to the question how it is possible that fuel prices are currently about 40% higher than in 2008 while then the barrel of oil cost about 180 dollars and now about half that....
Jan van Ruth, I don't think we need to convince each other.
I also sometimes get tired of how easily people are fooled. Because that's what it is.
Of course, you can think differently about how to prevent as many diseases as possible.
But that is not the case here at all. It has nothing to do with public health at all, and we have understood that very well by now. But a lot of people just don't realize that there is mass manipulation. What surprises me the most, is that people just accept and take everything that is proclaimed in the media.
I understand that many cannot interpret all the figures that are also published here, but something as simple as breathing outside air freely (if there is no smog) you don't let that be denied you, do you? Why do you get a fever? To take a paracetamol, or is it a signal from the body, to step on the brakes and rest? There are countless examples, but most of them are too lazy to think. And so they voluntarily allow themselves to be led to the slaughter. You and I will certainly make mistakes sometimes, but you learn from that, I say.
Dear Anton,
How funny that Jan van Ruth and yours truly write such a whole article together, which hopefully is a useful addition to everything you already mentioned yourself.
Thank you for that and of course for all your contributions. Also thanks to Jan van Ruth. I think we have said enough on this subject now. Positive and constructive, that's how I experienced it
Definitely a nice addition! I read everything (so far) but I lack the time to always give substantive responses.
That Spong was completely lost became clear to me last year during his Op1 performance. What a vaccine. And that while he is a lawyer and you can expect him not to be stupid. People have been hugely fooled with the whole Corona policy. And especially when it comes to the "vaccinations". It is striking that especially the higher educated believe in all this nonsense. "Lower" educated people often have a very well-developed distrust. Probably grown that way because of the daily misery that hits these people much harder than the gullible brainwashed smart people with a fat wallet at the university. While you should expect these people to be critical and inquisitive. I don't believe in the theory of evolution (also a religion by the way) but if "survival of the fittest" is true, I fear the worst for the higher educated. They are certainly not going to make it.
The big problem for fanatics is that they hold on to their positions at all costs, even if the opposite is proven. The biggest problem, however, is the proclamation of half-truths. So that is deliberately omitting some facts, leaving you with a twisted story. Sincere people are honest enough to ask questions when they don't have an answer. A fanatic abuses that by ignoring the questions or bluffing them with 'science has proven it a long time ago, everyone knows that'. It is a lack of an answer and an admission of weakness for lack of arguments. That is why it makes little sense to talk to these kinds of people. Someone with different starting points is never a problem for me, you can only become wiser and enrich each other with knowledge. Finally, this. Since the time of the Enlightenment, science has used an empirical point of view. What is not perceptible to the senses does not exist. That is very unfortunate and does not do justice to reality. Indeed. If something is not perceptible to the senses, that does not say anything about its existence.
So that too is a half-truth, unworthy of real scientists. This is not to be confused with hypothetical science. It uses principles that have not yet been proven and that is of course permitted, provided you are willing to adjust any wrong principles.
All this all plays a role around the corona. It is also a means of checking the reliability of our government. That is why I have highlighted this extensively.
I read >> that's why there are doctors and medicines to make you better. << Well, I think that's the biggest problem. Doctors and drugs do NOT make you better. Because a little doctor would have offered much more resistance to vaccination. They only suppress the symptoms and often do not make you better. In the past, when Pharma started. they DID get research money and the alternative medicine with herbs etc. from nature was also well developed, but suddenly the research money was put at ZERO. That's why I'm so against Digi -programmable money. Because if it turns out wrong, we cannot decide for ourselves what kind of medicine we want to buy. 🙠The whole story of the virus is already a point of discussion, a lot has never been proven. Only told, if.............
I don't think you understand exactly what I mean, that there are medicines and doctors to cure us.
I am trying to clearly indicate the difference, that the earth also contains a lot of natural medicines, such as herbs and plants, and has given insight to professionals = doctors, who apply them in the right way to cure us of diseases. That's how it's meant to be. But that system is being squandered by the so-called alopathic = chemical medicine industry.
This is not only fake, but also often destructive to health, is addictive and weakens people. Not everything that is called medicine is medicine and not everyone who calls himself a doctor is a healer.
In our complex time, it is not always easy and not right to put this point of view completely black and white, that does not do justice to the truth.
The great danger is that quackery is a fact on both sides. Fanatics are dangerous people and deny any alternative. To leave out the deliberate deception and self-enrichment from the list.
The corona vaccines raise a lot of questions for me and it is precisely the many secrets surrounding them and their intrusiveness and the billions in profits that are reason enough for me to reject it. I hope to have given another positive addition.
It is now clear that serotonin plays no role in combating depression. Somehow the serotonin boosting anti-depression drugs do work but not because it would increase serotonin. So pharmacy has been wrong for 30 years. But it sells well of course. And the fact that people get addicted is a nice bonus. So you see again how those pill spinners don't really know what they are doing. What they do know a lot about is lobbying, marketing, financing corrupt investigations and scaring people. Last night this became clear once again with the Tel Sell episode on D66-TV (Nieuwsuur) in which the new Corona vaccine was praised to the skies.