Impractically educated people receive more injections, those with PhDs less

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   Sarcoff on 17/09/2023 at 11:01

   Higher educated people just have a good memory to remember nonsense, you don't have to think logically for that.

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   elgoog on 17/09/2023 at 16:08

   Isn't it common that higher educated people simply know better what makes them wiser and thus preach what always benefits them?
   And if you add that to the desire "to belong", and add "difficult to think, it will be good because then I don't have to make an effort is so simple", you already come to a very large group of vaccine believers.

   Look at the food industry, we've been poisoned by them for decades.
   All year round there are fundraising campaigns for heart and blood vessels, your kidneys, Parkinson's, rheumatism etc.
   And that money then goes (yes, of course...) to research for medicines.

   Yes, of course we are not going to investigate how we can prevent it because you do not earn anything from that.
   If the food industry only produced healthy and responsible food, health care could probably be 80% cheaper.
   That's not something we want of course.

   And all those PHD and high IQ suckers eat and drink themselves madly at the poison served.
   So why not get a vaccine?

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      Anton Theunissen on 17/09/2023 at 18:29

      Well, PhD's don't...

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   Coline Lugassy on 18/09/2023 at 05:01

   I miss something in this discourse that only Eliza has hinted at (helicopter view) but that doesn't really come out anywhere, and that is daring to take responsibility for large numbers.
   When you want to vaccinate 7.5 billion people with a new product, every little mistake, even if it is so small, is magnified to horrible proportions. There is misery from that, without a doubt. From a responsibility alone, you can think that it is not wise to put all the eggs in one basket and thus take a bizarre gamble with the survival of humanity.
   On top of that, the idea of one size fits all can never be right. The same product in the same dosage for all types of people, of all races and from baby to bodybuilder? Who can believe that can be good? And if it gets out of hand, no one has yet been trained to treat it, because it is a new product whose ingredients were secret (a little more is now known about that).
   Responsibility towards large numbers, i.e. large, overarching responsibility, is something we are not trained to do. We just started specializing, further and further. This is even more important in the academic world than in the world of practical subjects. Plumbers and bakers need to develop a broader view than deeply specialized highly educated people. The former must be able to oversee the entire system because otherwise a mistake has far-reaching consequences (and they stand with their feet in the mud for days to fix it) while the latter can rely on colleagues with specializations in adjacent subjects.
   I enjoyed your analysis, Anton, and am going to read another article, only this had to get me off my chest. I think that also has something to do with daring to take responsibility for a larger whole.

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   Coline Lugassy on 18/09/2023 at 05:01

   I miss something in this discourse that only Eliza has hinted at (helicopter view) but that doesn't really come out anywhere, and that is daring to take responsibility for large numbers.

   When you want to vaccinate 7.5 billion people with a new product, every little mistake, even if it is so small, is magnified to horrible proportions. There is misery from that, without a doubt. From a responsibility alone, you can think that it is not wise to put all the eggs in one basket and thus take a bizarre gamble with the survival of humanity.

   On top of that, the idea of one size fits all can never be right. The same product in the same dosage for all types of people, of all races and from baby to bodybuilder? Who can believe that can be good? And if it gets out of hand, no one has yet been trained to treat it, because it is a new product whose ingredients were secret (a little more is now known about that).

   Responsibility towards large numbers, i.e. large, overarching responsibility, is something we are not trained to do. We just started specializing, further and further. This is even more important in the academic world than in the world of practical subjects. Plumbers and bakers need to develop a broader view than deeply specialized highly educated people. The former must be able to oversee the entire system because otherwise a mistake has far-reaching consequences (and they stand with their feet in the mud for days to fix it) while the latter can rely on colleagues with specializations in adjacent subjects.

   I enjoyed your analysis, Anton, and am going to read another article, only this had to get me off my chest. I think that also has something to do with daring to take responsibility for a larger whole.

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      Anton Theunissen on 18/09/2023 at 09:00

      Thanks for your addition! What you write has everything to do with concentration of power. In my opinion, this is always derailed because it entails forces on a megalomaniac scale that only saints can cope with.

      There's no way around that, I'm afraid.
      If you were to set up a separate institute or a training programme for this, it would also be encapsulated in no time. The only thing that helps, in my opinion, is absolute transparency of governance.

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         Godfather on 19/09/2023 at 10:39

         I would say as a simple HBOer: never exclude anything. If everyone is shouting that the earth is flat, look for evidence that that might not be true before you walk with the masses and rely on people who have appearances against them.

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      Fons on 28/11/2023 at 12:51

      Helkopterblik? To be able to oversee such an operation, you leave for the moon at warp speed and look at what happened on earth from there:

      Operation ludicrous speed (level MAVO calculations)

      Between 01-03-2020 and 6-10-2022, 12.7 trillion doses were distributed.
      source: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

      How many vials had to be produced for this? We assume the smallest number, i.e. we assume that 5 doses are taken from a vial.

      12,700,000,000 / 5=2,540,000,000 vials

      How much time was available for this:

      Between 01/03/2020 and 6/10/2022, 81 million seconds elapsed

      https://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html

      How much time was available to get a dose in an arm?

      2,540,000,000/ 81,993,600 = 30.97802755337002 seconds from vial to (5) people.
      31 seconds times 5 makes roughly 155 seconds, so there was about 2.5 minutes available to produce and administer the dose.

      Conclusion:

      In those two and a half minutes, the contents of the vial were designed, tested, pilot produced, mass-produced, and finally transported (partly very cold) and administered to a person.
      Apparently, at the beginning of the time span between 01-03-2020 and 06-10-2022, an infrastructure was set up worldwide consisting of the following components:

      R&D sites
      Test sites
      Trial production sites
      Mass production sites
      Suppliers scaled up
      The logistics taken care of.

      Ask:

      Was it possible to scale up so quickly with existing infrastructure?
      Why was nothing about the production and transport of the vials shown in the media?
      Could the vials be filled with a sophisticated product in such a short time?
      Was the data in the media (the source of the calculation) manipulated for the purpose of public perception.

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   First Byte on 21/09/2023 at 00:48

   Entrepreneurs are a separate people (I'm one myself). You are expected to run a business "at your own risk". As a result, entrepreneurs are particularly keen in assessing risk. That assessment of risk is not science, but more a matter of intuition. You read the newspaper, you look around your city, you google everything, read what people and companies are doing, know where you have hit your head in the past and you decide...

   I am convinced that entrepreneurs are either unevacuated or dropped out after the 1st round.

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