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  1. Arnold Schelstraete

    On January 4, 2021, Erwin Kompanje published a wonderful article about this.
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    No contamination can be demonstrated, but still 'chronic COVID-19'?

    I heard one of our intensivists say to an intensive care nurse, after they had done post-covid consultations together, that he was surprised that many patients were 'doing so well'. Patients who we had treated critically ill in intensive care in March-April where they had been mechanically ventilated and who now came to the consultation hour.

    The same week I read the article 'Long haulers are redefining COVID-19' by Ed Yong in The Atlantic. He writes that of 'of 1400 long haulers, two thirds of those who had antibody tests got negative results, even though their symptoms were consistent with COVID-19' and 'Of the long haulers, most are women. Their average age is 44. Most were formerly fit and healthy. They look very different from the typical portrait of a COVID-19 patient – ​​an elderly person with preexisting health problems'. The patients felt misunderstood, doctors told them that they might have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Myalgic Encephalopathy, which they saw as an incorrect diagnosis. It was really COVID-19.

    It is seen as a limitation of modern medicine: the ability to treat chronic pain, chronic fatigue, brain fog and other cognitive disorders, and a wide range of other symptoms and complaints that cannot be explained somatically. The complaints are real for the patients, but cannot be explained to the doctors because no physical cause can be found. Not during physical examination, not during X-ray examination, not during extensive blood tests and examination of other body fluids such as urine or cerebrospinal fluid. Frustrating for patients, their loved ones and the care providers. It is therefore not at all surprising that many patients see the cause of their suffering in a chronic physical illness. Chronic infectious diseases in particular have been frequently mentioned, such as Candida, Brucella, poliomyelitis (infantile paralysis), Epstien-Barr virus (infectious mononucleosis) and Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme disease). In addition, many other external factors are considered responsible: radiation, 5G, high-voltage pylons, transmission towers, chemicals, and so on. Diseases such as chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia are also often classified as unexplained diseases. The patients suffer from their complaints, sometimes for life.

    Chronic Lyme disease is one of the most well-known 'unexplained' chronic (post)infectious diseases. No antibodies or active infection can be detected, long-term antibiotics usually have the same effect as a placebo in randomized studies. The group of patients is very heterogeneous. It is not surprising that patients do not find a response to conventional medicine, but alternative treatments also fail in the sense that the symptoms do not disappear (completely). Many patients have undergone expensive, time-consuming, invasive but ultimately fruitless treatments and feel misunderstood and ostracized.

    Myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME) (then called atypical polio) was first described in 1934 when a group of nurses in Los Angeles presented with a wide range of atypical symptoms. 75% of patients were female and younger than 30 years. No direct connection has ever been found with the 'real' infantile paralysis. The term ME was described in the British Medical Journal in 1957 in the article 'An outbreak of encephalomyelitis'. Here too, female nurses at the Royal Free Hospital in London were particularly affected. It was therefore also called 'Royal Free Disease'. The neurologists/psychiatrists McEvedy and Beard gave their (psychiatric) opinion on the incident in the British Journal of Psychiatry (1973; 122; 141-150) and called it 'Mass hysteria'. The main reason for this was that no complaints could be objectively explained, the patients were neurologically completely 'normal' and that it was mainly young women who were affected. Although contradicted by many (particularly by the patients themselves), ME and CFS appear to be controversial diagnoses. This is mainly because regular doctors cannot do anything for patients and therefore cannot be assigned to a specific specialist (neurologist, infectious disease specialist). In addition, the symptoms are non-specific and broad. Many regular doctors do not accept ME and CFS as diseases. The Association Against Quackery therefore calls it a 'fashion disease' or 'non-disease'. Others called it 'The stress of living in the 20th century' or the 'Yuppie flu'. In addition, patients do not want to be labeled ME/CFS. It has a bad name.

    In 1829, John Mason Good described the picture of Neurasthenia in his book 'The study of medicine'. In 1869, the American neurologist Georg Miller Beard (1839-1883) gave a lecture on 'Neurasthenia, or nervous exhaustion'. A report appeared in the Boston Medical and Surgical Journal on April 29, 1869. The symptoms he described were largely identical to ME/CFS and the unexplained syndromes associated with infectious diseases (such as polio, borreliosis, etc.). Beard explained the exhaustion of the nervous system by the increase in stressful life in busy cities with all the burden and responsibility. He wrote two books about it and called it the 'American disease'.

    It seems as if the clusters of symptoms are all about the same thing: Neurasthenia, Postviral fatigue syndrome, Benign myalgic encephalomyelitis, Chronic fatigue syndrome, Bodily distress disorder, post-lyme syndrome, atypical polio, etc.

    It is characteristic that there are no objective indications for any of the syndromes mentioned that can explain the symptoms. That is why they are also called SOLK (Somatically Inadequately Explained Physical Complaints). SOLK is used by regular doctors as a 'exclusion diagnosis' when no somatic, demonstrable conditions are found that explain the complaints. A mainly psychological component is then suspected and the somatic doctors refer to psychological and psychiatric care providers. In the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), SOLK is summarized as Somatic Symptom Disorder (Somatoform disorder).

    Can the 'long COVID-19 haulers' that Ed Yong describes be seen as SOLK? Or is there indeed an effect of infection with SARS-CoV-2? Even if no antibodies against the disease can be demonstrated repeatedly? There is now no one who claims that he/she has 'Atypical polio', because polio is no longer a significant disease in the Western world.

    There are some patients with proven and adequately treated borreliosis who subsequently have vague complaints. The Post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome (PTLDS), but there is also a large group of patients in whom repeated infection with borrelia cannot be proven and yet have a wide range of complaints and claim to have chronic Lyme. They have SOLK.

    There are now patients who have proven to have had COVID-19 and are left with complaints. In analogy with borreliosis 'Post-treatment COVID-19 syndrome', but perhaps also a large group of patients in whom infection with SARS-CoV-2 cannot be demonstrated repeatedly and who now claim to have chronic COVID-19.
    The Lung Fund recently reported that 95% of corona patients still had complaints six months after infection. The mean stream media took this news as truth without any research of its own. Everything to publicize the virus as 'terrible'. Spread more fear.

    But hey, the lung fund had recruited members from the Facebook page 'Corona experiences and long-term complaints'. 2113 participants, of which 'only' 345 had been found to have antibodies against SARS-CoV-2. Most participants said they had had COVID-19 themselves, without ever having been diagnosed with it. So in the trash with this research. Confounders galore.

    Is history repeating itself again, but now with a new current label? Will we eventually label 'long-term COVID-19', as with other infectious diseases, as SOLK for most of those affected? Or will the 'symptom' disappear again with the disappearance of SARS-CoV-2? Time will tell.

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  2. Frans van den Berg

    I know the story of a cell tower where a lot of people in the neighborhood suddenly got serious complaints. The problem was that the mast was not yet on!

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    1. Alison

      No doubt true,
      But no reason not to look at the suspected side effects of phone radiation. It is indeed something that is kept out of the press (because of financial and economic interests and because we are collectively addicted and do not want to know the undesirable side effects).

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  3. Lou

    As negative as the imagination of man (nowadays) works, it can also work in a positive sense. People can also wish for healthier. There are thousands of alternative "healers" who build on that principle. Through meditation etc. people gain focus and positivity. I've experienced that myself. For example, raising your pain threshold through distraction and focusing on no pain. I never let myself be sedated at the dentist and the pain is quite high when he is peeping into your nerve. But I am convinced that the pain is short and the anesthetic bothers me longer. Recently I saw some youtube videos of the Iceman. I was always cold and always cold feet. Due to a different mindset a few exercises I am no longer cold (imagination? Maybe so, but it works for me). Working with a vest in 18 degrees during the day ensured that I was completely numb after an hour. Now I have no cold anymore and cold hands and feet are quickly warm again. I think my secret is because I relax during the day in between. Stress, in my opinion, is the biggest cause of disease.

    What I am trying to say is that if you approach people more positively, learn to deal with their bodies, people can become a lot healthier and happier and care becomes a lot cheaper.
    But the focus is on medicines or remedies with special powers. Doctors know no better than to write prescriptions for every ailment in general. Actually, you see the same thing with alcohol, 99% of alcohol drinkers think that they can only be cozier with alcohol. Only with a cigarette you can take 5 minutes of rest. How to live and stay healthy should be a compulsory subject at school. Strange that no one is now coming up with a healthcare sector that is becoming more expensive and less affordable every year?

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  4. Alison

    Medical worldview is a belief and optimization of the placebo effect the best drug.

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    1. Leo Brybor

      COVID doesn't exist. Corona does not exist. Contamination is nonsense. Wake up.

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      1. Anton (@infopinie)

        For me, the virus theory is a useful model and COVID is a recognizable package of symptoms.

        Look: if I understand you correctly, the number 1024 does not exist either because it has never been isolated. Numbers and numbers are no more than a construct, invented by man. They have never been observed. It's software. That's not to say you can't use them, especially until there is a better model, with a useful conceptual device, to communicate about reality. I am open to a coherent approach that does more justice to what we observe.

        So again the question: What is a better model? I don't hear that all the time. Otherwise, write a story about it with a head and a tail, maybe we can turn it into an article.

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  5. Leo Brybor

    @Lou: indeed, and as long as sites like this and the so-called "alternative" or "opposition" media continue to propagate the virus lie – for whatever reason – this will not change and large numbers of children and adults will once again fall victim to poisoning with chemical weapons called vaccines. The number of victims is increasing, because it is an excellent business model to make and keep people sick.

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    1. Lou

      @Leo Bryor,
      You have a point that the pandemics don't really exist physically.
      Santa Claus doesn't exist either.
      But we celebrate what every year this fabrication.
      Something does not have to exist, or be physically real, to cause the necessary problems.
      Actually if something doesn't exist, but we think it does, that's something to really worry about.
      And so it does exist, even if it's just a fabrication.
      Examples abound in religion, it seems to me.
      Fabrications are even the basis for some fundamental rights, and I swear that on the Bible.

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  6. Lou

    Dear Anton,
    Are you already aware that the next pandemic has already been announced?
    The bird flu.
    It is already being pre-sorted by the WHO.
    Strange because since 2015 there was no case that a person became ill.
    But in 2022, there was 1 person who died from bird flu.
    Or was it with the bird flu.
    Or was it not bird flu at all, but the person happened to have contracted a bird flu protein.
    Or did he work in the lab where they experiment with bird flu and has become infected by a mistake.
    Pfizer and competitor mafia is already brewing a vaccine, I suspect.
    But possibly that will just be made for variation X and it will mutate very quickly to Y when they let it go.
    https://rumble.com/v2962xp-breaking-the-who-warns-of-next-pandemic-calls-in-big-pharma-redacted-with-c.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&ep=2

    And also look at this vlog, is the bird flu also a hype (coincidence due to cooperation) like Covid? Wouldn't surprise me.
    https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Taking-Away-Your-Chickens:4

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    1. Lou

      In the news it is not clearly mentioned anymore, or we don't even see it anymore because we are used to it.
      https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/vogelgriep
      Bird flu is also a serious matter in 2022.
      Or at least it is used to kill birds en masse.
      I think if they did the same to people almost everyone would have to be culled because we've all had spike protein in our bodies over the past few years.
      Especially because of the vaccinations.

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    2. Anton (@infopinie)

      Don't forget that that poultry would otherwise be killed a few months later. We find that perfectly acceptable and it is questionable whether this remedy would be applied 1 to 1 to humans.

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    3. Lou

      The Poultry would indeed be killed, possibly not long after culling. But that is a very simple view to make this somewhat acceptable. At least that's how it comes across. These animals already live in appalling conditions and their martyrdom has been for nothing. At least not acceptable to me at all!

      I don't eat chicken anyway and only free-range free-range egg with 3*. Factory farming should be banned anyway as long as torture continues.

      Meat must be bred with respect for nature, animals and humans and not just for profit, if we have to continue to eat meat in excess if necessary. Then you also prevent unnecessary suffering such as disease outbreaks, use of too many antibiotics, etc.

      I and many with me do not fall under "We" happy.
      But your point is clear. The vast majority of people do not care about the suffering of another or other being and only look at their own advantage. That is why we now have a corrupt government, which is also a reflection of Dutch civil society.

      In my opinion, a corrupt policy is only possible if enough people knowingly and willingly support it. Everyone knows by now that the government is telling one lie after another and yet the narrative remains that they are doing it for our good, or it will blow over.

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    4. Leo Brybor

      @Anton: bird flu seems to be here to stay, with the recent nonsense about "jumping over" on people. There is already a prelude to be able to make a plandemia again in a (short) time.

      Enne... beware of the Marburg virus though! 🙂

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