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  1. Hans

    Very nice to be kept informed of such matters in this way.

    Thanks for that Anton

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  2. Leo Brybor

    Campbell, too, is a – probably well-meaning – useful idiot, caught in the virus lie. As a result, he doesn't get beyond endless discussion of details that don't matter. After all, viruses do not exist, "infectious disease" is also nonsense. With that, the whole house of cards collapses. But people like him cannot/dare not admit to themselves and the outside world that they have been propagating a lie all their lives. Ego or cognitive dissonance – or both – stand in their way enormously. Critical thinking is impossible for such people, because they always stay well within the paths of government and industry.

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    1. Anton (@infopinie)

      Leo, can you post something businesslike, not just psychology of the cold ground? I sincerely hope that you come up with a better model than the one we have to work with now and that offers a reasonable grip on epidemic phenomena. I am asking this question for the third time.

      If you're just ranting, I'd kindly ask you to find another outlet for that. It is no longer specifically about a virus – strictly speaking, it has never been about that. It is about the crisis that has been manufactured around it.

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  3. Leo Brybor

    Rants... Because I'm preaching something other than usual?

    Another model? That's been there for over a hundred and fifty years. Search for "terrain theory" or "terrain model of disease". You'll be surprised.

    You're still missing the point: everything in this crisis is based on the virus model.

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    1. Anton (@infopinie)

      No, because you're constantly on the same drum and labeling dissenters with mental health issues. I will try to find a brief description of the theory you have in your head via Google and maybe continue from there.

      I may be missing the point, but I don't think this crisis is based on the virus model at all. If there is a better model for dealing with disease and death, the commerce kongsi will put aside the virus model and start abusing the new to expand their property and power. You don't necessarily need viruses for that. This could also be done, for example, with water, climate, food, nitrogen, terrain, etc. etc.

      I now realize that you can already see something similar happening: Fauci now claims that injecting vaccines can't actually work: it has to be sprayed into the air. So the puncture model is just as easily overhauled.

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  4. Leo Brybor

    @Anton: "labels dissenters with mental health problems" – really? If you do have an example of that, I will offer you my sincere apologies, but I do not believe that I have used the term "mental health problems", or anything to that effect. Or do you mean "cognitive dissonance"? If so, that's not a problem, it's a widely recognized psychological mechanism that affects everyone to varying degrees.

    And yes, of course I keep beating the same drum – that's what the mainstream media does. Only with repetition can you try to get people who have been brainwashed all their lives out of that "hypnosis".

    I agree that different crises such as war, climate, etc. can be used. However, for the past three years and many times in history, the virus model has been used by governments to seize more power and by eugenics to make people they consider waste sick with vaccines, in order to earn money from these victims.

    But, you don't mean that because other crises can be used, we don't have to pay attention to the virus model, do you? Don't you think it's terrible that innocent children are vaccinated against something that doesn't exist, just to make them stupid and sick, so that later when they grow up, governments and business have good and obedient slaves?

    About another model: a nice summary of the contagion lie can be found at https://www.transitieweb.nl/achtergrond-longreads/de-besmettingsmythe-een-nederlandstalige-samenvatting-van-the-contagion-myth/.

    An into in terrain theory can be found at https://balanced-health.nl/germ-theorie-versus-terrain-theory/.

    PS: if I occasionally express myself indiscriminately, it is mainly because I am very, very angry with robbery and (pharmaceutical) industry.

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    1. Marlies Rattink

      Hi Leo,
      I'll follow you. I'm reading virusmania. There is no evidence for the causation: virusA causes disease B. Then we have drug C. That in turn gives side effects and so we have to give drug D etc. American children get 78 cocks against 16 diseases. The question is why? Many diseases have disappeared because the environment - terrain theory - changed (clean drinking water, better nutrition). For example, despite the fact that there is no vaccine, we no longer have plague in Europe. There is no evidence that viruses exist in the sense that they cause disease. All we have is the electron microscope. Sars-voc2 is a computer model of a piece of what we call RNA protein. There's a lot to say and research and write about it. It's just that "one"—the science doesn't need it. Because so much money is earned, we no longer look any further and we are stuck in a kind of middle ages in terms of thinking. We suffer from dogmas. Thanks to this crisis, many more scientists and doctors are aware of this. Hopefully we can get out of the stranglehold of the pharmaceutical industry and learn how to stay healthy again. Not through medication but through nutrition, exercise, love etc. (and yes there are also medicines that are needed and work well. But if people are chronically ill, you can't speak of being cured, but rather of keeping sick).

      https://www.de-tijd-van-ons-leven.nl/leve-het-leven

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      1. Anton (@infopinie)

        I get Leo too. I do wonder if people who live in nature and eat healthy don't get sick and don't know epidemics, because I understand that (from what I've read about it, I'm not good at that matter). And I find it difficult to prove that infections do not exist, just as that healthy living in a healthy environment would make you immune to infections. I believe that Westerners have spread a lot of nasty diseases among Indians, Eskimos and Amazonians. Anyway, my priorities at the moment are elsewhere, apart from the fact that under a different paradigm there is a new stranglehold in the current systems. The system needs to be transparent and humanized, whether they are abusing a virus or something else.

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  5. Leo Brybor

    Hi Marlies (unfortunately I couldn't answer directly so I hope you see this answer), how great that you are reading Virus Mania! But, not only is there no evidence for causation, there is no evidence that viruses exist at all. You say "All we have is the electron microscope". Have you ever looked at what needs to be done with a sample before it can be viewed through an electron microscope? Frostbite, poisoning with heavy metals, etc. Apart from that: you can take a picture of something with such a microscope, but how do you know that you are looking at a virus, if you have never isolated it? 😉

    This one is nice about how SARS-CoV-2 and everything related to it only exists in computers: https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/The-Digital-Seduction-of-COVID-19-with-Eric-Coppolino:0

    Furthermore, you say "And I find it difficult to prove that infections do not exist". If something can't be proven, why assume it exists? If even in 1919 they failed to make people sick with the according to the story oh so contagious Spanish Flu virus (https://sci-hub.tf/10.1001/jama.1919.02610310005002)... So where do you stay? After that, there were never any experiments in which contamination was demonstrated.

    @Anton: "We suffer from dogmas.": that is certainly true! Another interesting dogma is the "central dogma of genetics", which has also never been proven... Of course not, because dogmas are by definition unproven. A nice discussion that makes you think can be found at https://criticalcheck.wordpress.com/2021/12/15/dna-discovery-extraction-and-structure-a-critical-review/.

    " I believe that Westerners have spread a lot of nasty diseases among Indians, Eskimos and Amazonians." – No, that is the story we are told to hide the fact that this was just ordinary genocide. The only thing with which the original peoples were "infected" was Western "nutrition" and "medicine", or vaccines. Only then did they get sick, go figure. And... I get that you too only have 24 hours in a day, but on a rainy Sunday morning you would https://odysee.com/DeBetoveringVerbreken:b of 50 pages should be easy to read. Look for evidence of contamination, you'll be surprised.

    About the system: as long as we leave the power to make money with a small group of international bankers, nothing will ever fundamentally change. A great book about that is The Web of Debt (https://odysee.com/The-Web-of-Debt(audiobook):1). Or The Creature from Jekyll Island, which is actually even more exciting (https://odysee.com/griffin-creature-jekyll-island-audio:9ad20b3b73b78c5f6ef39c952dea7e26a5b747ef).

    PS: Anton, what does that plugin cost to answer normally? If you set up a Monero wallet, I will make the first donation so that you can finance it. 😉

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  6. Hans

    One thing at a time, I would like to say. In other words, it makes no sense to want to undermine the prevailing theory about viruses as long as there is a goal that is closer to the experience, namely the excess mortality due to the (forced) vaccinations and other very harmful restrictive measures that effectively amount to the deprivation of basic rights. Again: not, in the first instance, wanting to be as pure as possible in the doctrine, but working together against coercion.

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    1. Leo Brybor

      One does not have to exclude the other. It's such a shame that people like you can't or won't see big pharma effectively become the fourth pillar of the state, alongside the legislative, executive and "judicial" pillars. That is why it is a fundamentally different issue than arguing about mortality rates or measures. These are all details, derived from the underlying virus model. But there is indeed an even more direct threat that many people do not yet see: the cbdc. It strikes me how incredibly stupid and apathetic the Dutch people are: when you bring up CBDC, the suckers say: "crypto is not for me" or "I have nothing to hide anyway". How one day they will wake up in a nightmare. I would almost say: "just fine, when I warned you you wouldn't listen and you declared me crazy".

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  7. Hans

    Hi Leo, thanks for your reply but wouldn't you want to decide for me whether or not I see things. I've been aware of the dangers you point out for years, but it's a matter of strategy. One thing at a time and not having the illusion that the entire 'army' as a whole can be chopped directly into the pan

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    1. Leo Brybor

      "I've been aware of the dangers you've been pointing out for years" isn't really apparent from your initial answer, hence my assumption. "One thing at a time" is not possible anyway: to do things at the same time you need at least two. Apart from that, there is a war against the people on many fronts and we will have to fight back on all fronts at once. Starting with the politicians who make the "rules". At least as important is eliminating the (central) bankers who enable the decline to a technocratic system by financing the psychopaths in politics, media and business. Step by step as you suggest, we are lost. In addition, fighting against the "state" makes no sense, because the "state" is an illusion, created by those same bankers. But of course you already knew that.

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  8. Hans

    You can try to demolish the entire wall around a city to be taken in one fell swoop, you can also try to enter by breaking through a weak spot in the wall. But of course you already knew that

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