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  1. P Koelewijn

    I've been following Steve since his 1st conversation with Brett Weinstein and Robert Malone.
    Nice that you bring this publication to your attention.
    You often can't see the wood for the trees with him.

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      Yes, I have been following him for a long time, also corresponded with him from time to time. He has blundered once in a while (I don't remember what so soon) but that's allowed, everyone stumbles sometimes when he goes off the beaten track.
      But for a lot of people, who have less patience with him, he himself is one big red flag. Very unfortunate because he brings out good things.

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  2. R Bruijn

    In summary: not the benefits, but the burdens?
    I think the factor 3.3 is high to be caused by the HVE alone. If the excess mortality is really caused by the vaccines, then this ratio is actually about 10% too low.
    For young people who were scandalously also pushed to get some shots, the ratio should be close to (under) 1, right?

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      I thought so too, but still... An example sum:
      Remember that mortality rates are generally low. Say it's 1% in a certain age group.
      10% have not been vaccinated, the majority for health reasons (what else would it be?).
      So we have 90% vaccinated people and 10% sick unvaccinated people – there is a good chance that there is a large part of that that 1% mortality chance of the entire group.
      So we now have to divide that 1% mortality chance for the entire group between those two groups. Is that factor 3 still that much? Everything you take out in the vaccinated must be added in 9 copies to the unvaccinated. Then you get to a factor of 3 I think. But you can calculate better than I can... 😉

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      1. R Bruijn

        A little aversion to pointless math violence developed. We know all too well that it gives a false accuracy since the RIVM models. Garbage in, garbage out.
        With the very oldest, I can still imagine the HVE, you don't pin someone on his deathbed. Although, I spoke to a lot of people whose demented father or mother was vaccinated with priority.
        But with school-age youth, virtue signaling played a role, "when are you going to get your shot?". I was in between and had to bite off my tongue.
        And with the somewhat older people, it was perhaps the health freaks who didn't go.
        So many questions that VWS could answer.

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      2. Godfather

        Perhaps there were also people in the group of unvaccinated deceased people who died before they were booked as "fully vaccinated".

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        1. c

          Leave out the "maybe". There was also a period when you were only allowed to go on holiday with the first booster. So there was a time when people with the first two shots or one Jansen counted as unvaccinated again. Rutte then supposedly wondered aloud in the House of Representatives whether he could go to a meeting in Germany with one Jansen. I still have the feeling that I am in a very bad bad movie. Our child alone in a building with 40 entrances between the unsavory types in Amsterdam during the evening shifts and we could no longer go there to help and watch because of the curfew and then those messages from Halsema in recent days that she was actually "against the curfew"... etc.

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