Nivel violates the Code of Conduct for Scientific Integrity on more than two points

by Anton Theunissen | 25 Nov 2024, 21:11

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  1. Cees Mul

    Anton, just another topic. I try to determine a timeline for myself about the first half of 2020. Currently, there are still a number of complaints against the general practitioners who have prescribed off-label medicines and thus kept people out of the hospital. Early treatment was against the prevailing protocol.

    -There were a number of categories of deaths of people in hospital.
    -1. people who were admitted to MET Corona (positive PCR test) (early treatment could probably have largely prevented this).
    -2. people who ran into a positive test in the hospital (completely different reason for admission) and therefore ended up in the Covid protocols. Willem Lijfering cites pulmonary embolism as an example.
    -3In addition, the abuses in nursing homes where -presumably- people have also died due to wrong treatments. Or lack of treatment.
    -4 and there may also be completely healthy people who die from a Covid-19 infection. Maybe people who had not built up the right resistance in the past.

    Add to that the magical decline in other causes of death.
    All discussed before here.

    The chance for a healthy person to die from Covid was very small, especially if early treatment would have been allowed. How large is actually the proportion of deaths that were 100% due to Covid during the spring peak of 2020?

    That spring peak of 2020 paved the way for years of nonsensical measures. Not only in the Netherlands, but all around us. I think it would be extremely relevant to understand more of what happened in the hospitals at that time.

    And when were the 'protocols' actually introduced? Ban on early treatment, put everything on Covid treatment in the hospitals, no antibiotics against bacterial pneumonia, people with respiratory infections on ventilators.

    Is it true that the great dying only started after the measures were announced? I don't remember. Tried to look it up in the timeline of the central government (useful information in itself) but couldn't really find anything about it.

    Does anyone know how and when those treatment protocols were introduced?

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    1. Willem

      That differed from hospital to hospital. It was often a club of 'wise men' within a hospital/region who may or may not have introduced the WHO protocols as a diagnostic protocol.

      In the south of the country I know (first-hand and 100% sure) the who Covid protocols were introduced around March 11, 2020 and they became leading (first demonstrate/rule out Covid before looking at other diseases)

      In the north of the Netherlands I know (anecdotally and second-hand so not 100% sure) that the existing protocols remained leading and only when old diseases were ruled out (such as pulmonary embolism) then the new WHO protocol was brought in to demonstrate/rule out Covid.

      One of the reasons to keep the old protocols leading is that the WHO protocols insisted on terrible contagiousness, so that all patients with Covid complaints (coughing, increased temp, increased infection parameters etc) had to be treated completely sterile (doctor in moon suit, put pt under several layers of plastic before touching, a radiology machine, such as a CT scan could only be operated with difficulty, because first had to be made completely sterile / and cleaned after 1 patient with suspected covid was scanned...). So if you first looked/excluded old diseases before looking at the new disease (Covid), that was much more practical (from those down-to-earth northerners).

      Interesting in this is that the Covid mania at the time was mainly in the south of the country and the north magically remained free of covid. Which, Simsalabim, had to be explained by... Carnival!

      Anyway, the anecdote I quote from the north: whether that is certain, I don't know. But to find that out seems like a piece of cake for an investigative journalist, for example. Just call a few departments and request the diagnostic protocols that were leading in the Netherlands at the time. It's just a tip...

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      1. Cees Mul

        I picked up the RIVM site of that time on the way back machine. Jonathan Engler argues that the great dying only started AFTER the measures were announced. That seemed quite drastic to me. But it seems that he is right.

        On March 6, 2020, the first Corona death was reported on the RIVM site. An 86-year-old man....
        You can see a mortality peak from about the second week of March. Strangely enough, that is largely over around April 12 (seasonal course?).

        https://web.archive.org/web/20200415065244/https://www.rivm.nl/coronavirus-covid-19/grafieken

        I can't upload the images here but have saved them in a document and added the link.

        These pictures are not per region. But it does indeed seem that the problems only started after large-scale testing.

        The text below is also interesting: Last paragraph indicates that the actual number of deceased is higher because not every deceased has been tested. I like to turn that around: So everyone who died with a 'positive' test was registered as a Covid death. The number of deaths DUE to Covid was therefore considerably lower.

        Number of deaths by date of death
        This graph shows the number of reported deceased patients per day, by date of death. Part of the number of deaths is not reported until one or a few days later. For this reason, the numbers from a few days ago are sometimes adjusted (the new numbers can be seen in yellow). Checks sometimes show that some reports are incorrect, which sometimes means that the numbers of reports from previous days are adjusted.
        The actual number of COVID-19 deaths is higher than the number of reported COVID-19 patients in surveillance, because not all deceased patients are tested.

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      2. Anton Theunissen

        Herman Steigstra has credibly calculated for the Netherlands how many deaths from Covid have actually been exceeded. I don't know exactly in which article either.

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      3. C de Vries

        Comparison with (southern) Germany (with carnival) may be useful. I seem to remember that there was no excess mortality there during the first wave.
        Indeed, there is work to be done for investigative journalism.

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    2. Anton Theunissen

      Cees, I can't work that out for you, no time and also too blurry. Then you would have to plough through all the old posts of Hans Verwaart (on Maurice.nl and later on his Substack), some of mine but especially of Herman.
      It is very possible to imagine a scenario that Covid was just a flu and that the rest was caused by the hysteria. But that cannot be substantiated. Then you have to start doubting cause-of-death registrations, for example – but suspicion alone won't get you there. And you will never get there again.
      Someone like Denis Rancourt is convinced that the excess mortality was only caused by hysteria. In his research, he shows that the misery only started after the alarm bell had sounded.
      But then you can also say: they were there in time with the alarm bell...

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      1. Cees Mul

        Thank you, Anton. I get it. I'm going to think about this with someone else. Can't put infinite time into it either, but now I find it very intriguing. That wayback machine is incredibly useful. And fun!

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    3. Godfather

      Saw in my own timeline that in mid-March in New York doctors were at a loss because ventilation often did not help with so-called silent hypoxia. Especially overweight black people died in droves. So causes turned out to be vitamin D deficiency and obesity. And ventilation did not do any good because intervention was much too late. Monitoring saturation and oxygen on time worked much better.

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      1. c

        In (approximately) October of 2020, Prof. Peter van der Voort, then head of ICU in Groningen at Jinek, about resveratrol because this supplement would counteract covid in almost all patients because 80% of patients with covid were seriously overweight. Diederik Gommers (now anti-wind turbines because figures about wind turbines from the RIVM are not correct and there will be wind turbines in his backyard) confirmed this in the same program. Peter van der Voort did (does?) research into resveratrol, but as a member of the Senate for D66, he himself blocked research into primary care in covid. There was even a ban on it almost immediately, see Rob Elens and others. Patients have also not been examined for pulmonary embolisms, which made intubation/ventilation fatal. Unbelievable what else has happened.

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  2. LN

    When reading Magdalena Dzambo's description of her vaccine damage, I immediately thought of John Campbell's interview with Brianne Dressen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re2rTfCWuVg – different vaccine (AZ), but approx. The same severe course of a fierce autoimmune reaction with irreversible consequences.
    And, almost worse, in the same way "dismissed" by the authorities (with their big promises and "you do it for the other"). That is scoundrel behavior. For me ... that scurrilous behavior almost proves that they know they are wrong in denying the mog. of vax as the cause and that they do not have "the guts" to admit guilt or at least co-responsibility or at least wrong!

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