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  1. Alison

    Exactly: it messes with your immune system, causing it to function suboptimally, with all the long-term consequences that entails.
    Seems to happen to several people.

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  2. Lou

    Personal experience before covid vaccine/genetic engineering (AstraZeneca) and after vaccine/genetic engineering.
    Every year I got the flu twice, apparently I have a slow immune system and changing seasons costs me at least 4 days of flu and a week of recovery. It's no different. No matter what I do in terms of supplements, diet, etc. I am quite ill for a day and go to bed, the rest I sit/lie in the living room.
    It always started with a tickle in the throat, then the whole throat turned red-yellow and an inflamed thick throat and when that almost seemed to be over, I caught a cold or the flu. And that at least twice a year and even more if there is a lot of stress. After Gene therapy. No more inflamed throat, tickle in the throat, just rinse sambuca and it's gone. Now it starts straight away in the lungs, makes me very nauseous and develops pneumonia. Now very sick for three days with little fever and one day very sick with fever.
    No more colds and no more sore throat, but the clinical picture is more severe for me. And I'm sick every quarter now. I hope that this will decrease and I will try everything with vitamins and diet. I continue to live a very healthy life and my BMI is 20 years younger.
    What I mean by this is that there is much more going on than what is registered. To what extent are the mild illnesses increasing, with the latest waves of flu it seems that I am not the only one and in addition to flu, other viruses are also present, or is that just the media making everything up. Just like the measles, first 60 and now 120 cases in the Netherlands and that is news? I think everyone used to get measles. I've had it too (I've had them all, those childhood diseases) and was barely sick from it.
    So the fact that more people are dying is one thing, but more suffering from diseases is, in my opinion, very underestimated? What do you think?

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    1. Hans

      Just read that a measles outbreak can now cause more pro-flowers than in the past. This is because many decades ago mothers had usually suffered a natural measles infection, which gave their children the relevant immune response/cells at birth.

      As a result, in most children, measles was previously nothing more than a childhood disease that was simply part of it. The later mothers who have received the shot against measles do not pass on the same information to their babies as those who had a natural infection.
      This does not mean that measles is now a dangerous, fatal disease, but unfortunately the current generation no longer has the luck that the elderly had with their unvaccinated mothers.

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      1. Anton Theunissen

        Just don't say it too loud because they will probably think of an extra shot for that.

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    2. LN

      More suffering due to diseases - I often think about that: there is little or no insight into that, in any case much less than "number of deaths per year" and certainly not as long as it does not lead to overcrowded hospitals. You have to rely on what people in the medical world notice, e.g. “younger people are much more likely to suffer from disease X”, etc.

      CBS's cause of death statistics are now 6 months behind schedule, but "late" can be deduced from this in terms of trends.

      What could also show a trend is the number of single-vehicle traffic accidents, and also the number of traffic accidents in general with an unclear cause or with "unwellness" as the cause. For a while I noticed that quite a few motorists left the road for unknown reasons (and even drove into a ditch) at times when people were not normally drinking, but you cannot say much about that without knowing the real cause. If someone escapes unscathed, it may not be investigated further and certainly not “totaled”.

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      1. Godfather

        I think it was also very busy at damage repair companies after the vaccination rounds.

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      2. Ward van Koperen

        Just check death from falls.

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    3. Cees Mul

      I totally agree with you Lou. The excess mortality figure is in a way the canary in the coal mine. The number of people with a compromised immune system will be many times higher than the number who have died from the effects of vaccination. How that manifests itself is another story.
      Can that be proven? Difficult, then you would have to compare unvaccinated groups with vaccinated groups. But with comparable health profiles. But then you still have a subjective judgment about whether you are sick or not. Or register in hospitals whether people have been vaccinated or not. But that's not going to happen.
      To me it is clear when you look at the mechanism behind the mRNAs. I didn't take them. The last time I seriously had the flu was December 2020, so probably Covid. Not anymore after that. Two colds in one day.
      Maybe we can set up our own poll?

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  3. R Bruijn

    To my shame, I received 1 (say and write one) injection. Allowed to aspirate but still angry with myself.
    Our immune system is fantastic, but it must remain trained. I have worked in education for forty years and have never had the flu, despite having been exposed to every virus that virologists have ever studied/devised. And I have always passed up the flu shot.
    My “two cents”: it is not despite but because. A kind of natural microvaccinations.

    And maybe you shouldn't tinker too much with that wonderful immune system by getting flu shots and corona boosters every year. Just regularly go to the movies, concerts and cuddle your (grand)children.
    And of course there is nothing worse than staying indoors with the windows closed (lockdowns)!

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    1. Ward van Koperen

      Indeed, it seems like a good idea to avoid viruses as much as possible. The idea is that less virus load means less illness. However, you cannot keep this up indefinitely.

      Your body gets to know viruses (and other pathogens) through exposure to them. You prefer to do the latter with a low virus load that does not make you sick. Preferably in the summer too. Then your body is prepared for the dry air in the winter season in which viruses are rampant. Exposing an “untrained” immune system to a high viral load is asking for trouble.

      I also think that very good ventilation of classrooms will have an adverse effect on the outbreak of epidemics. This is because children in particular have a good immune system that makes short work of pathogens, so that the epidemic does not even have time to start. If they are not exposed to this, they will be exposed to a high virus load at once, they will become ill and perhaps even become super spreaders; dangerous for vulnerable people.

      It actually says a lot that you haven't been sick in 40 years despite close contact with many children in poorly ventilated areas.

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  4. jan van ruth

    People in England who have not been vaccinated had on average an 18% higher chance of having been admitted in the five previous years than people who have been vaccinated, with the chance for the vaccinated being set at 100%.
    Since hospitalization is a very reasonable indicator of health, it can be said without a doubt that the health of the unvaccinated was considerably worse than that of the vaccinated.
    and therefore the risk of mortality was also higher.
    so any mortality among the vaccinated that is not significantly lower than the mortality among the unvaccinated is in fact a death due to the vaccination.

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  5. Jeroen.

    Of course, nature cannot do anything by itself. Large, very profitable billionaire companies know much better how nature works: it doesn't work and everyone will die if you don't use their (experimental) remedies. In fact, you're an antisocial misanthrope if you don't believe their sales stories. It is still the same song as the seller of the elixir of life on the medieval market square. Only at that time it did not yet have a worldwide liability exclusion and protection by all boards and media.

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      Hello Rob,
      “The main thing is not to harm” and “Where there is pus, remove it”.
      And by 'this newspaper' I think you mean the Telegraaf.
      And Marianne Z, well, I would give away one of my guitars to have a cup of coffee with her. She asks questions so often that I think “I would like to tell you more about it” but yes. My natural talent is to stay under the radar.
      Maybe you can contact her through Dick?
      And I will also post a translation of the Kirsch article.

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