Before MSM runs off with it, you should know that Norman Fenton and Martin Neil reviewed an article (just say quietly: debunked) which states that the vaccines would have saved 14.8 million years of life. You can download the pre-print of that paper Download here as a PDF. It will irrevocably lead to jubilant stories in NRC and Volkskrant, because their primary task is simply to calm the people in periods of great fear. Critical journalism simply does not fit very well with managing the masses, they will think for themselves and of course we should not have that according to the Klok doctrine.
The paper calculates with VE, IFR and infection rates as if it were nothing, but we now know how difficult the VE is to measure, that it is quite uncertain how many people have actually come into contact with the virus and that you need to know how many registered Covid deaths there would not have been without Covid. The VE they want to quantify is already an assumption in the formula they use to calculate!
The infection forecasts with and without vaccination are estimates anyway.
It is also noteworthy that vaccination mortality is set at zero. He doesn't participate for a while, for convenience. This also applies to the vaccination damage, while both could still have an effect on those 14.8 million saved years of life (or with vaccine damage can be converted to QALYs.)
A curious sentence was also: "The number of lives saved during the Omicron period was found to be slightly higher than the number of lives saved before the Omicron period." (So when almost no one died of Covid thanks to Omicron, not even in barely vaccinated areas, the vaccine saved more lives. yes right.)
The subsequent explanation is not convincing either. But read for yourself.
Below is the complete translation of the English article of Fenton and Neil.
John Ioannidis uses circular assumptions about 'safe and effective' vaccination in a model to show that vaccine has saved millions of lives.
Imagine that we want to test the claim that a special diet – let's call it D – that consists of consuming 10,000 calories a day without any exercise will lead to a weight loss of 25 kilos in 5 weeks. To make such a bold claim, you would expect us to examine the evidence by comparing people's recorded weight before and after following the diet.
But suppose that our 'proof' is nothing more than the following mathematical model:
- Weight loss after n weeks in kilos = n x efficiëntie_D
where efficiëntie_D is the average weekly weight loss of diet D. - Suppose we assume
efficiëntie_D = 5 - With these assumptions, we then calculate
Weight loss after 5 weeks in kilos = 5 x 5 = 25
QED! We can now rely on the claim that the special diet D does indeed lead to weight loss of 25 kilos in 5 weeks. There is no arguing with that (hand on heart).
Would you be convinced by this argument? Or would you feel very uncomfortable and strongly suspect that this is magic? Considering that the purpose of the study is to test the claim, don't you find it strange that the main assumption in the model (i.e. efficiëntie_D = 5) is essentially exactly the claim we are trying to test?!
Isn't it all a bit circular and goal-oriented?
Well, it turns out that a study claiming to test the claim that the Covid vaccine saved millions of lives (just like a Previous research of Imperial College) is not based on a comparison of empirical mortality rates between populations of vaccinated and unvaccinated people, but rather on the aforementioned 'scientific' methodology.
This scientific study applied the same highly sophisticated logic and similar circular assumptions used to test the claims about the special diet, D, namely that:
- Without vaccination, Covid infects and kills many people.
- The vaccine is effective; People who don't get the vaccine are four times more likely to get Covid than people who do.
- The vaccine is completely safe, i.e. no one dies as a side effect of the vaccine.
Below is the headline of the article. Pay special attention to the identity of the first author:
The first author of this article is none other than one of the most respected scientists in the world, John Ioannidis of Stanford University, who in 2020 real world data to show that Covid was not at all as deadly as claimed.
And here, in its entirety, is the mathematical model in the paper that was used to claim that 14.8 million years of life were saved by the vaccine:
For each age group of the population, the number of lives saved in that age group is L:
L = N x PI x IFR x VE
Whereby:
- N: number of people in that age group
- PI: number of people in that age group who would be infected with covid (without a vaccine)
- IFR: fatality rate of infection in that age group (i.e. the percentage of infected who die)
- VE: the efficacy of the vaccine in that age group (that is one minus the ratio between the percentage of vaccinated people who get covid and the percentage of unvaccinated people who get covid).
With the exception of N, all the true values assumed in the equation are fanciful, based on a host of unproven assumptions, such as that the numbers of Covid cases were accurate. Specific:
- PI is assumed to be 20% (i.e. in the absence of the vaccine, 20% of the population is assumed to have contracted Covid).
- IFR in each age group is based on Ioannidis' work that showed that older people were at much higher risk; but the values are still based on the (incorrect) assumptions that those classified as Covid cases actually had the disease and that those who died did indeed die from Covid disease.
- The VE is based on the assumption that those classified as Covid cases did indeed have the disease. More importantly, the data used is based on studies that we have shown to be systematic shortcomings show. The article also assumes (pre-Omicron) that VE = 75%, d.w.z. dat an unvaccinated person is four times more likely to get covid than an unvaccinated person. This is nonsense.
Although a number of people have publicly criticized the article, there is one point that no one seems to have raised and that is that it demonstrates, unwittingly, an extremely important point, namely:
Since there is no real-world data showing that the vaccines saved lives, we know that the estimates of the effectiveness of the vaccines – such as the 75% assumed in the study – are empirically incorrect.
Perhaps this was actually the secret conclusion that Ioannidis hoped to deduce from the article? If not, why would he want to be associated with junk work masquerading as real "research"? That is inexplicable, or at least mysterious.
The front cover of the article states that there was no funding or conflict of interest associated with the article, although it states, "John Ioannidis' work is supported by an unrestricted gift from Sue and Bob O'Donnell at Stanford University."
While this paper by Ioannidis has not yet been peer-reviewed, it is already being used as "overwhelming evidence" of how great the vaccines were. The 2022 Imperial article, which claimed that 20 million lives had been saved by the vaccine, was published in no less than the Lancet, despite the fact that it was based on similar circular ridiculous assumptions. It has since been used in multiple high-level reports and forums as justification for the motivation to continue rolling out the vaccine.
As explained in this short video, we can't just ignore or laugh at such nonsense:
Exhausting, Anton. Had seen it pass by on Substack. What happened to Ioanidis? He does an Agemaatje.
Ioanidis was indeed one of the people, and a leading scientist at that, who made mincemeat of the terrifying IFR as peddled by the WHO.
How is it possible that people are suddenly on the other side of the story? There still seems to be a huge push going on to propagate the pandemic narrative (deadly virus, brave scientists and sharp politicians who have prevented it from getting out of hand. Vaccination available in a short time). The only hope is that Kennedy can turn the story around in the US. But that probably means that most Europeans will portray America even harder as a country that has lost its way. Gradually time to emigrate, it seems.
Earlier this week I saw the story of Rob Elens. That everyone who was admitted WITH Covid just about died. Because early treatment was not within the protocols. Only the people who were treated prematurely recovered quickly. And the people who arranged that are fined and dragged to court. That is ONE GP. How many people have died completely unnecessarily in hospitals and care homes because they did not receive the right treatment? So the iatrogenic cases, which Fenton and Neil have also talked about extensively.
That seems a lot more interesting to me than the guesswork on the number of lives saved by vaccines.
Fear that we will never hear anything about it.
Et tu.
It seems that Gaius Julius Caesar spoke his last words in Greek:
“καὶ σύ, τέκνον;”
(Not that that's entirely relevant, by the way.)
Greeting
Erik
Interesting. If only because it indicates that you should not judge people by their name/status (which is 'renowned scientist') but by their merits.
I found and still find The princess diamond findings by John Ioannidis admirable, because Ioannidis correctly estimated the covid IFR so early during the lockdown, which demolished the entire covid narrative in one fell swoop. Publishing it in March 2020 against (almost) the whole world took guts.
Unfortunately, 'science' was not ready for the princess diamond findings at the time (it was ignored) and the rest is history.
What John Ioannidis is doing now with that vaccine study is particularly unfortunate for him. WF Hermans said that writers are not judged on their best books and statements, but on their latest books and statements. It's the same with scientists (I think). It would have been granted to Ioannidis if he had left it at the princess diamond. But men who walk around in white suits (also at conferences, I know...) don't know how to stop. It is the will to score and stay in the picture, the vanity factor so to speak, that rob those kinds of men of their merits. Tragic but true. This is how I interpret this e... see also Youp van 't Hek and all those other vain people who really could/have achieved something, but don't know how to stop.
But it's also difficult, the question: when will I stop once you've brought yourself to great heights and fame
The alternative, now that I think about it, is to avoid that great height, or to look for the great height, but without the fame.
It's not that bad to have a blog that doesn't participate in all that fuss and remains normal. Fenton and Neil don't participate in that and neither does this blog.
Even not or hardly being mentioned in the infamous report of Jacobs and Meester (where the chapter of Theunissen and Steigstra was the most digestible according to yours truly) is, on reflection (because I thought differently about this before) not such a bad idea either.
A bit incoherently written perhaps and without a good point, but sincere!
Thanks Willem! I had no say in what I was called, but I thought it was neat. I did the whole thought development sparring with Herman, but he did all the calculations.
Of course, I would like to have more reach with this blog, because of the exchange and dissemination of insights. As an individual, I am not looking for fame or publicity.
I see it differently than W.F. Hermans. Judging a writer or scientist is secondary. It satisfies the need to personify, idolize, associate, actually the basis for "ad hominem" reasoning. The only thing that matters are really the expressions, regardless of who made them.
Mephisto by Klaus Mann
Misschien was ik toch iets te snel met mijn oordeel over Ioannidis. Misschien heeft hij zijn ziel toch niet aan de duivel verkocht.
Het is namelijk ook goed mogelijk dat hij er op deze wijze weer tussen probeert te komen en het systeem van binnenuit aan de kaak wil stellen.
Hij is er immers duidelijk over dat het aannames zijn. In een volgend artikel zou hij deze aannames kunnen vervangen door betere schattingen op basis van empirische data. Ook kan het model eenvoudig worden uitgebreid met schattingen over vaccinatieschade. Ik wacht het af. Voorlopig trek ik mijn oordeel even in en geef ik hem het voordeel van de twijfel.
Overigens lopen er in de wereld van de mainstream media wel een aantal Mefisto’s rond.
Wat een bijzondere draai heeft hij gemaakt.
Waarom heeft hij dit nodig. Wordt hij anders als wetenschapper nergens meer gevraagd?
Zie dat Ronald Meester en Bram Bakker zich nu ook met de discussie bemoeien. RM weet wel het een en ander van modellen:-). Blijft helemaal niets van over (linkedin).
Ik was er al mee bezig: https://virusvaria.nl/et-tu-john-gefileerd-maar-nu-echt/