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  1. Armin

    When you look at age categories, you see that the difference between the Netherlands and Belgium only occurs in two places: 1) an undermortality of children under the age of 14 in Belgium (although these will probably be too small numerically to play a major role in the overall trend), and 2) an excess mortality in the 75+ population.
    How active is/were people with vaccinations in Belgium? If more elderly people there took the left drawer, that might be an explanation. But in any case, the cause apparently lies in the larger number of elderly people who are now dying.

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    1. c

      What I do know is that there is much more vaccination in Flanders than on the other side of the country (the French speakers and immigrants were more critical) and/or left-handed, the latter I have also heard from my family and acquaintances there. More could also be done in schools without the principal getting into trouble (or being afraid of it). Other than that, it was just as crazy as here, unfortunately. The strangest incident was the death of the man Marc van R. acquaintances let their hunting dogs out every day! in the forest/area where the man was found and declare that they are sure that the man was not there before... I really hope that the bottom stone will come out. Thanks again for the article and perhaps the figures of the vaccination coverage in the different language areas and the big cities will bring more clarity.

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  2. Godfather

    Or did the Belgians make a hefty correction to the calculated excess mortality 2 years ago, see kink in graph?

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      No, both OWID and Eurostat calculate the excess mortality themselves on the basis of the mortality figures provided by Belgium.

      For the Belgian calculation of excess mortality, you have to check with sciensano. That's pretty much the same. For example:
      https://www.sciensano.be/en/biblio/analyse-van-de-oversterfte-de-zomer-van-2023

      The RIVM excess mortality calculation is a lot more reassuring than the NL excess mortality calculated by OWID and Eurostat. They are more like https://sterftemonitor.nl

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  3. Pyotr

    Twee vragen die je dan kunt stellen om een duidelijkere relatie inenten/ oversterfte vast te stellen: Is de oversterfte nog (vooral) lager in Wallonië en Brussel waar de vaccinatiegraad beduidend lager was dan in Vlaanderen?
    Is de werkelijke vaccinatiegraad in Wallonië ( Brussel) nog lager ten opzichte van Vlaanderen en Nederland omdat in het zuiden van België nog meer gesjoemeld wordt dan in Vlaanderen?

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  4. Hans Himself

    I'm looking for some advice on whether or not to do vaccinations.

    I am 61 years old. I'm a little overweight. 93 kg by 189 cm. My health is good and my fitness level is reasonable.

    Because of my age, I have been invited for 3 vaccinations.

    Corona Vaccination:
    • There is of course no doubt about that: The Corona vaccination is an MRNA vaccine and I will of course not take it.
    • It is now generally known that the side effects do not outweigh the possible minimal and short-term protection of the corona flu.

    Flu Vaccination:
    • I'll skip that one too.
    • I never actually have the flu and I never actually have a cold.
    • What would be the added value of the flu shot?

    Pneumococcal vaccination:
    • I'm still unsure about this.
    • The GP has not responded to my request for information. The assistant only managed to say that this was not an MRNA vaccine. A package leaflet was not available.

    What now?
    • I don't consider myself crazy. My yellow booklet is overflowing with vaccination stamps. I just like to travel. And I still think vaccinations against diseases such as polio and rabies are a good thing.
    • But, I have followed Mr. Steigstra's studies closely and I know that the MRNA vaccines are simply no good. My confidence in the RIVM has now fallen far below zero.
    • After the corona campaign, I eventually became reluctant to accept other regular vaccines without question.

    So now I am just looking for objective and reliable advice about the advantages and disadvantages of pneumococcal vacination.

    Mijn vraag is dus: kan iemand mij adviseren ver nut en noodzaak van deze pneumokokken-vaccinatie ?

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      1. Hans himself.

        Bedankt Peter !

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