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by Anton Theunissen | 25 Apr 2025, 18:04

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A cryptic headline, prompted by my birthday today. I would therefore like to treat the readers of my blog to a new little discovery. Because if you know little, you make a lot of discoveries!

The average Dutch person is getting older, I realize that today like no other. Everyone who is alive is constantly getting older (apart from the fact that "getting older" must also be understood in context) but at the same time there are also 0-year-olds. But is the average Dutch person actually getting older? And by that I actually mean: will the age of mortality be higher? If you hear people talk about "eternal life", "where is the limit", "soon everyone will be 120, and then?", you would think so.

It doesn't seem to be that fast. We are all not getting older, while the average mortality age is going up. That sounds crazy, but that's because between the ages of 0 and 88 the group of young people becomes smaller and the group of older people increases. So we have not actually been getting older than 88 for a number of years.

Als we van 2010-2020 kijken, ging de gemiddelde leeftijd van overlijden per 5 jaar met 1 jaar omhoog. Die ontwikkeling is voorheen sneller gegaan toen het belang van hygiëne werd ingezien en meer recent toen medische wetenschappen belangrijke ontwikkelingen doormaakten (bij hart-en vaatziekten nog tussen 2000 en 2010 bijvoorbeeld). Die progressie gaat steeds langzamer omdat we het laaghangend fruit inmiddels wel hebben gehad. Lifestyle, voeding etc. komen misschien ook nog aan de beurt maar dat zien we dan wel weer.

Graph 1: I do not take the years after 2020 into account. As of 2021, there has been a sharp decline. 2024 is leaning towards the dotted line again, but the younger age of mortality in 2021-2023 (and also 2024) is of course an unprecedented disaster.

Calculating in this way, we will be at 80 years in 2028, 90 years in 2078, etc. That is if you keep the dotted line straight ahead. Of course, you can't go straight on indefinitely, there has to be a limit to it that we bend to – but where is that limit?

Should we now be afraid of the spectre that we will soon be withering away in a nursing home without care at the age of 96? Rest assured: the development of aging only applies to the average. If we look at the average age of death of people over 80, you see something different.

Since 2018, people over 80 have died on average around the age of 87.8 years. So that has stabilized for seven years. Since 7 years they DO NOT GET OLDER. You could also include 2017: then it has been stable for 8 years. While I always thought that people were reaching an increasingly older age.

Chart 2

Have we reached the limit? In itself a reassuring thought.

What says CBS About that?

That becomes more difficult because then you quickly end up with their life expectancy, defined by CBS as

"The average number of years of life still to be expected at a given age".

In any case, it doesn't look like it, it's not a realistic expectation. Just look at Graph 3: the life expectancy of boys born in 2020 and 2021 is three quarters of a year shorter than in 2019, after an epidemic of a disease that did not affect young people. And how can babies be almost back to 2019 levels in 2023?

Chart 3

And then Chart 4, born in 1959... Oops... I only have 5 years to go! But that was the expectation when I was born. The mortality rates are slowly decreasing, so as you get older, your life expectancy increases. (At first I thought it was because peers are dropping out – but that's not the case).

Fortunately, I see in graph 5, 'Life expectancy at 65 years', that I still have about 19 years to go. It is then 2044. But then, in 2039, I will have turned 80 years old. And then it gets a bit higher again: around 87.8 years, or even higher because by that time that horizon may have moved a little further away... Or not? Because then I will be at the limit of 87.8 years that we saw in Chart 2.

Well, at least I've got everything out of it!

Graph 4: Life expectancy at birth in 1959
Chart 5

"CBS expects a life expectancy of 87.3 years for men and 91.6 years for women in 2070." Unfortunately, they do not say which year of birth this applies to.

It's time for a "Life Expectancies for Dummies". Get rid of those mystifications.


The slime dress... But he did make a nice picture to go with it.
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11 Comments
  1. Susanna
    Susanna the 25 / 04 / 2025 to the 19: 26

    Congratulations!
    And get the most out of it as long as you like it. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🥂🥂🥂

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    1. Anton Theunissen
      Anton Theunissen the 26 / 04 / 2025 to the 08: 23

      I do SuSanna, thank you!

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    2. Pyotr
      Pyotr the 26 / 04 / 2025 to the 12: 54

      Congratulations young man.

      I see in the first graph that in the first corona year (2020) the average age (AL) at death was higher than in 2019 and fell sharply in 2021 when the shots were given en masse, especially to the elderly.
      Now you can reason that this is (largely) because at that time it was mainly (stick) elderly people who died of corona. But if I see the following statement: age at death 80+, then the difference between 2019, 2020 and 2022 is minimal.
      Can you give a plausible explanation for this?

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      1. Anton Theunissen
        Anton Theunissen the 26 / 04 / 2025 to the 23: 50

        The group 65-80, and that the same (stick) elderly would also have died without corona. Seems plausible to me.

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  2. Herman Steigstra
    Herman Steigstra the 25 / 04 / 2025 to the 20: 17

    Congratulations on this new, sharp, light-hearted and at the same time insightful piece.... And of course also with your birthday 🙂

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    1. Anton Theunissen
      Anton Theunissen the 26 / 04 / 2025 to the 08: 23

      Haha, thanks Herman

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  3. Lou
    Lou the 26 / 04 / 2025 to the 11: 25

    Congratulations. 1959 was an exceptional year of construction. Coincidentally, I'm out of 🙂 that too
    It's not about how old you get, but how you get old.
    And that may be as healthy and free as desirable as I want (not possible because that is becoming more limited by the day) Seize the day.

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  4. Willem
    Willem the 26 / 04 / 2025 to the 12: 51

    Which number is better

    1. Average life expectancy?
    2. Or average age at death?

    Ad 1 has the advantage that it tries to take into account that we seem to be getting older, but has the disadvantage that a model has to be used to calculate it.
    Ad 2 has the advantage that they are real numbers (nothing modeled), but the disadvantage that someone who dies as an 87-year-old in 2020, maybe if he was born 40 years later, would still be alive in 2060 (due to all those fantastic medical advances, and clean air and so on...)

    Personally, I tend to find ad2 more reliable than ad1.

    What ad1 does not take into account is that the average age is not only increasing because of clean air and so on, but is also increasing because there is less and less infant mortality (see e.g. https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/cijfers/detail/37979ned)

    In 1950, 75,929 Dutch people died, of which 6,126 were infants (8.0% of the total), while in 2023, 169,521 Dutch people died with an infant mortality rate of 598 (0.4%).

    To follow now, beer mat statistics...

    Suppose that the average age at which someone dies (and who has passed the age of infant) is 88 years in year out, but you don't include that in your averages (because you count from birth), then the average age of death for the 1950 cohort is (88*92)/100=81 years and for the 2023 cohort (88*99.6)/100=87.6 years

    In other words: since 1950, almost 7 years of life expectancy has increased if you don't take into account infant mortality.

    Now I get from your graph 4 that the average age of death for the 1950 cohort is about 72 years, and for the 2023 cohort is about 82 years. In other words, a 10-year increase in life expectancy of which (according to my beer mat statistics) 7 years is explained because fewer children die as infants in 2023 than in 1950. The remaining 3 years will then (maybe) be due to better care (perhaps something: thrombolytics for cerebral infarction does something, so do pacemakers, antibiotics I still believe in, blood pressure reducers can be useful, anesthetics in operations are also becoming safer and laporoscopic operations are also safer than open surgery, etc), cleaner air (would it??) or (seems to me also a very likely: the drastic decrease in the number of smokers (in the 50s more than 90% of the population smoked, now 'only' 25%).

    What I want to say is that our increased life expectancy is largely explained by decreased infant mortality, which I have dressed up above with numbers, with the help of a... coaster!

    Now it's time to do other things...

    Congratulations on your King's Day, Anton!

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    1. Anton Theunissen
      Anton Theunissen the 26 / 04 / 2025 to the 23: 58

      I also made a graph of 1+ but the difference on this time scale (from 2010) was so small that I chose All Ages.

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  5. Rien
    Rien op 07/05/2025 om 20:56

    Oud worden is een begrip waar we eens naar moeten kijken omdat het je kan overkomen.
    Stel je wordt 100 en ligt de laatste 30 jaren van je leven te staren naar een plafond.
    Of je wordt 90 en in de laatste week voel je iets van een niet pluis gevoel.

    Vang dat maar eens in een grafiek!

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    1. Anton Theunissen
      Anton Theunissen op 10/05/2025 om 13:40

      Dan moet je zoeken op QALY. Daarmee wordt e.e.a omgerekend naar een eenheidscijfer.

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