Then come the Wappies! After Helmut Sterz, Paul Cullen and Stefan Homburg also go into it again

by Anton Theunissen | 9 mei 2026, 19:05

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  1. Jan van der Zanden

    2 excellent analyses. Homburg explicitly says that it is pointless to look at the motives. It's about the actions, which, again, indicate stupidity, tunnel thinking and groupthink. Exactly as TS Kuhn described it in the 1960s. And the Rule of Rescue put politicians, media and citizens in good following mode. No conspiracy or criminal intent is needed to explain all this.

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      Exactly. That is the reservation I make about what Cullen says. This is much more in the direction of a 'preconceived plan'. The signals he thinks he sees are weak, they do not necessarily point in that direction.
      Anyway, I have emphasized that so many times... It is indeed about the deeds and not for the reasons or motives.

      I can't read their thoughts at the time, so the question of why always remains: 'Conspiracy or opportunism'? Miranda Boorsma wrote a book about it: Conspiracy of opportunism? .

      I classify your qualifications 'stupidity' and 'reputation preservation' under 'opportunism' or 'incompetence'. I don't know exactly; the closer to the source the better the term 'malicious' will apply, 'against my better judgement'. In that sense, 'reputation maintenance' with enormous social damage can also be called 'evil'.

      But the final actions, that's what matters, are what they are, regardless of intention, excuse, extenuating circumstances. It is, as you say yourself, the actions that count.

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      1. Cor De Vries

        Fear that a number of wealthy money addicts (in the sense that they need more and more to find satisfaction. Cf. Heroin) play an important role in the course of events. Not stupidity, just smartness. By anticipating possible developments and helping to initiate them, they ultimately manage to accumulate more (ultimately unsatisfied) capital.

        Follow the money can bring clarity to this. I don't think they act in the public interest but personally and could therefore be seen as malicious.

        (Kuhn deals with historical developments in science in which big money did not yet play a major role as it does today)

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  2. Alison

    And yet the run-up to Covid also stinks. Serious.
    However, a cover-up regarding premeditation is hardly demonstrable, other than mortality figures.
    I'm not going to spend my life on it, but the little information I have received makes me suspect the worst. Then people think I'm just a conspiracy theorist: Motive, Means, Opportunity? Yes. Smoke? Yes.

    Even chimpanzees conspire, but the elite? No, of course not. Just read the newspapers. Honorable people. Our Netherlands has even had surprisingly little to do with Epstein. I'm just saying. All very nice people here.

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      1. Alison

        Hi Anton,
        For me, out of respect for the family, you can delete my comment - perhaps this series too. It hadn't happened yet. Just look.

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    1. Ed Sonneveld

      1 participant has now died.

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    2. Alison

      It has become a bit astringent and bitter. My condolences to the relatives of the 15-year-old girl who became unwell and died during the marathon. She didn't deserve that. What remains is that it is a criminal K-sponsor who goes free.

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      1. c

        Terrible news. I do hope that the relatives will have an autopsy done.

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  3. Willem

    I try not to listen to people who recommend labeak, they are peddlers to me who may not be promoting bat sandwiches, but they are promoting monkey sandwiches.

    The second speaker is more interesting, ie in 2020 there was no excess mortality in Germany (compared to the Netherlands where there was excess mortality in 2020). I see 2 possible causes: 1) it was spring earlier in Germany than in the Netherlands, which meant that fewer people with flu came to the emergency room in Germany during March-May and Covid could be diagnosed. 2) the who covid protocol was less leading in Germany than in the Netherlands. (Both is also possible)

    I don't know when the article with bar charts showing disease in 2020 will appear on vv. If it is possible, it could be interesting to split by region: in March-May 2020 there was also no Covid in Friesland and Groningen, while it skyrocketed in regions where I showed that the Covid protocol made all other diseases in hospitals forget (literally): South Holland, North Brabant, and North Holland (up to the Amsterdam Rhine Canal). I suspect that in Friesland Groningen people still thought about it and did not forget that there were other diseases than just Covid. It would be nice to see that hypothesis confirmed with bar graphs or something like that.

    Written in haste (it's Mother's Day, today's program is full)

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    1. Cees Mul

      Good point, Willem. I am convinced, partly because of your observations, that cause 2 is the most important. The peak in deaths in the Netherlands was roughly between mid-March and mid-April in 2020. Relatively short. I was able to find that via the way-back machine on the RIVM site. Unfortunately I can't provide a picture in the comments. Perhaps you can answer whether this corresponds to the introduction of the WHO protocols.

      It may indeed be a combination of factors. When the weather improves, people suffer less from respiratory diseases, so less is tested, fewer 'cases' are found and therefore less is 'treated'.

      That short peak in itself is suspicious. An actually deadly virus wouldn't just disappear. After that peak, with almost no measures, life continued as usual in the summer of 2020. Until testing started again. The autumn of 2020, when testing really started, yielded so many positive tests that there seemed to be a revival of 'the pandemic' again. This appears to have caused a second wave of iatrogenic deaths. And did all those people actually die FROM Covid or did they encounter a positive test somewhere along the way?

      Now I wonder what it was like in Germany (autumn wave).

      But, to keep it simple: the fact that there was no spring wave in Germany is of course bizarre. The fact that this 'pandemic' often adhered neatly to national borders confirms that government measures themselves were the cause. Also look at the differences with Belgium. I have an insane photo of a country road in Limburg from May 2020 when concrete blockades were erected on the national border. This was initiated by Belgium because in their view the Netherlands was doing too little. The three-country point was hilarious. Because Germany was open as usual.

      It is great that the German government has managed to market these 'vaccines' without excess mortality in 2020.

      Jonathan Engler also has a number of examples on his Substack of completely illogical examples where 'the virus' neatly adheres to national borders.

      I agree with his conclusion that there probably never was a new, deadly virus spreading around the world. The images from China (also shared here) with people lying dead as if on command are no longer alarming but hilarious. It is clear that Gain Of Function was being tampered with in bio labs. I also believe that something went wrong, but not that this escaped virus spread across the world. The cover-up must be real. They were shocked.

      The reaction was probably worse than the supposed problem. But of course we see that more often. Don't think it was a conspiracy in the classic sense either. But they had been peddling that mRNA technology for a long time and it just didn't work. More along the lines of 'never waste a good crisis'. And the widespread (but in my view unjustified) confidence in vaccines has been abused.

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      1. Jan van der Zanden

        Few measures? I think there was a strong lock down from mid-March until well into May with support measures (NOW-1, TOZO, etc.) that were budgeted at 100 billion by EZK!
        And: quite a few people actually died from or with Corona. Just not significantly more than with a serious flu wave. The full ICUs are probably more due to the panic and the forced "don't die" oekazes + LCPS, and therefore lack of healthy/normal triage in previous flu waves. But maybe it really was a little worse. That is difficult to determine exactly in retrospect... But I think that the fact that nothing was wrong is a bit of a denial of the facts.

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        1. Cees Mul

          I'm talking about summer, Jan. So indeed after May. In the summer of 2020, the terraces were open, no face masks, vaccinations were not yet available. There were some nonsensical rules such as no more than 4 people at a table. Largely ignored. I had a visitor from Portugal who left the airport wearing a face mask in the summer of 2020. He was surprised at the lack of face masks and that we could simply visit terraces and restaurants. Mortality rates were low. But that can be traced back. Indeed, the government propaganda continued. But that is separate from reality. There must have been scared people.
          But the essence of the story is that we had a mortality peak in the Netherlands in April/May and not in Germany.
          How can this be explained other than the explanations that Willem gives?

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      2. come on

        Not new, not deadly either….
        but the result of long development work in Chapel Hill, Hamilton and Wuhan, in a network that includes Baric, Shi, Anderson, Munster and Daszak. Sponsor: Fauci, NIAID. Declared purpose: bioweapon and defense against it, via vaccine. Also: Bancel (boss of Moderna) as leader of the WIV Wuhan biosafety lab. BKU strain with furin cut spot probably made by Baric, in collaboration with Munster and Shi. Active on human cells. Etc. etc. Too much evidence to simply dismiss. Conspiracy?? Don't think so, but a lot of 'wrong' lab work and a lab escape...

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        1. Hans Rodewijk

          Het verkopen van een laboratorium ontsnapping en verkeerd laboratoriumwerk is inmiddels ondergeschikt geworden aan de voortdurende wetenschappelijke misleiding door de topvirologen.
          Op 1 februari 2020 werden er tijdens een telefonische conferentie kunstmatige eigenschappen aan het covid 19 virus ontdekt en ook besproken.(kans inschatting 60% ,lab versus 40% natuur)
          Vervolgens werden er misleidende wetenschappelijke documenten geproduceerd met als enige uitkomst een zoönotische oorsprong.(o.a. Proximal origin of Sars Cov 2 en Lancet letter Covid 19 zie wikipedia),ondertekend door zeer veel virologen. Dit betekent dat deze top virologen hun hachje vanaf toen moesten gaan beschermen door voortdurend leugens te gaan produceren. Hierbij werden ze geholpen door de media, gebrekkige registratie van de basis gegevens en zeer onbetrouwbare uitkomsten van data analyses . Ook over de maatregelen bij een meer of minder ernstige infectie en het toepassen van een nieuw vaccin werden met behulp van de media onjuistheden vermeld. Men kon niet meer terug en de katalysator van dit proces is geen complot maar geld en macht.

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          1. come on

            Beats. But: in the world of (top) virologists there is indeed disagreement regarding the origin. E.g. Kristian Andersen expressed serious doubts about the wet market origins in that particular telephone conference of February 1. 2020 (where Fauci, Collins, Daszak and some others were also present - Baric too, by the way, but without the others, except Fauci, knowing that. Perhaps Koopmans and Fouchier too, incognito...). Andersen, after a lot of pressure from Daszak, among others, eventually changed tack on that article (proximal origin...).

            Baric later spoke out during an interrogation in the Senate... (that FCS, that's MY idea) additional evidence for the lab origin!

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            1. Anton Theunissen

              I didn't know there was any doubt about the lab leak at all!

              In my opinion, the outside world is convinced of a lab origin, and those directly involved deny this with just as much conviction.

              If we can call that “scientific discord” nowadays, then I see possibilities for mafia bosses: not allowing access to the accounting and continuing to deny it categorically. With some lobbying in the higher echelons - and there are always some people to convince - you can come out unscathed.

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              1. come on

                Anton, that is similar to what Marion and Maarten still propagate: they are stoic and defend the wet market theory, it seems, until their last breath. Mafia?
                [in addition, the East Indians are deaf to all counterarguments]

                By the way: there was discord then (2020); In the meantime, people are aware of the laboratory origin. Only: just try to get it out of their mouths.

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                1. Hans Rodewijk

                  De volgende wetenschappelijke publicaties propaganderen uitsluitend de (misleidende) zoönotische origine van Sars Cov 2:

                  The proximal origin of Sars Cov 2 , (minimaal 4400 citaten en 32.000 keer besproken in media)
                  The Statement in support of the scientists ,public health professionals and medical professionals of China combatting COVID 19
                  The species Severe acute respiratory syndrome-relatedcoronavirus: classifying 2019-nCoV and naming it Sars-CoV-2
                  The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the Covid-19 pandemie.
                  Later zijn is er nog veel meer peer reviewde wetenschappelijke publicaties met dezelfde boodschap geproduceerd en verspreid door de media
                  Wetenschappelijke publicaties over een mogelijk lab leak blijven spaarzaam en onderbelicht en zijn niet verspreid door de media.
                  Voor het verkrijgen van financiering voor de pandemische paraatheid tegen kwade virussen is dit een ideale situatie. Daarnaast is het opduiken van een werkelijk zoönotisch virus ,zoals het Hanta virus een mooie afleidende gebeurtenis om extra financiën te verkrijgen .
                  Deze factoren helpen niet om de misstanden omtrent het hele Sars Cov 2 gebeuren (inclusief ziekteverloop , preventie maatregelen en mogelijke oversterfte) te ontrafelen en in de openbaarheid te brengen.

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                  1. LN

                    Is it your own? a truly zoonotic virus, that Andean variant of the hantavirus?
                    How much do we know? For example, why is there (and reportedly was there) no outbreak yet near that rubbish dump near Ushuaia?
                    The endemic zone of the specific mouse known to carry this virus is 1500 km further north and Tierra del Fuego is an island…
                    And is it that specific Andean variant?

                    Zie ook Youtube “The strange timeline behind the hantavirus outbreak”
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El4RadkWWAs

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                    1. Hans Rodewijk

                      Je hebt helemaal gelijk. Goede tracking en tracing is het parool .Gevolgd door deskundig ,integer ,transparant onderzoek naar de oorsprong , identiteit ,kenmerken en andere interessante zaken. Deze procedures had ik ook eind 2019 verwacht

                    2. c

                      Who and with what virus in a suitcase without valid papers has been in the area? The Dutch virologist Vincent Munster or is it Vincent M. might have been caught? Smuggling of pathogens... I also heard that the side effect of the Pfizer C-shot contains the side effect: more sensitive to viruses such as the hantavirus... If only the MSM journalists were busy with this, no, it's only propaganda, as I see in my daily scan of this news online.

                    3. come on

                      Interesting! I read somewhere that Moderna has been developing a vaccine against Hanta since 2023... Also Vincent M (yes, from Hamilton, Montana) with all that material in his suitcase. He is the one who played such an important role in the whole corona story. It just shows how virologists act (they just drag virus material around the world), especially those who do gain-of-function [GOF] work... dangerous work that should be banned, see also Meryl Nass about this.

                      In that sense I agree with our unsurpassed MK: there will be the next pandemic, we just don't know when yet. However, that pandemic will come from a GOF lab, something MK will never say...

                    4. Hans Rodewijk

                      Zijn er bij export en/of import van al dan niet met gain of function bewerkte virussen geregistreerde koffers gebruikt door Vincent M? En hoe zit het met de registratie van koffers ,gebruikt voor de export (en binnenlands vervoer) van gehumaniseerde (transgene) muizen?
                      Bestaan er export certificaten van deze exporten en zijn er registratieverplichtingen?
                      Beschikken de virologen Vincent M en/of Danielle A(in 2019 werkzaam in het WIV) over
                      informatie welke toekomstig onheil kan voorkomen?
                      Zowel bij onderzoek naar de uitbraak van Sars Cov 2 als bij het onderzoek naar de oorzaak van het Hanta virus zijn dit legitieme (niet wappie) vragen voor betrokken virologen.

                    5. come on

                      Legitimate questions, Hans. I think this is entirely up to government agencies. Then the question arises as to how things are arranged in the US. One can assume that there is some degree of control there, just like the controls on plant/animal material that is taken across the border.

                      However, 'smuggling' of material - be it in the form of raw samples or purified viral material - is childishly simple due to the small scale. Unfortunately. Escapes from labs (via infected staff, or even via lab coats) are not isolated: for example, what happens to material that gets 'lost' after or during a flight? Too many questions. Especially seen in the light of the gain-of-function (GOF) research that is taking place all over the world today. We have tasted the bitter fruits of 1 such escape (from WIV Wuhan, or from 1 of the collaborating institutes, or even directly from material on transport), but there are certainly more examples now. What is the future of this WITHOUT a clear worldwide enforceable ban on the dangerous GOF lab experiments?

                      Food for regulators and certainly also for responsible researchers such as Vincent M (not to mention Ralph B, Danielle A, etc.).

    2. Cor De Vries

      Speculation remains, but in the Netherlands hospital care has always been (too) close to the wind (possibly with fewer beds and staff).

      I suspect that below the major rivers, the number of sick reports with flu-like symptoms (including among staff) was high during carnival, as every year, possibly due to strong, stormy winds with more indoor activities (only smokers went outside ;-).

      Due to the overload of healthcare, people there (compared to Germany) previously resorted to WHO protocols, medically negligently, and with much damage they came to a more or less standstill against the wind.

      Moreover, Germany later caught up with the Netherlands with vaccinations, as shown by the cumulative excess mortality figures from World in data.

      This can partly be attributed to the country's best-known virologist: Drosten.
      Who still persists in his vision. Saw somewhere that Koopmans had also joined the outer court again. Well, we cannot remain pandemic prepared enough

      For thorough German criticism of Drosten, see:

      https://youtu.be/338RFCA_7XQ?si=1FyxZsnsXFEPqRYN

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  4. Willem

    Off topic.

    See: https://www.radboudumc.nl/nieuws/2026/radboudumc-vangt-patient-op-met-mogelijke-hantavirusbesmetting

    12 (twelve!!) employees in isolation (quarantine) for 6 weeks because they did not follow the procedure, for a (usually) self-limiting disease.

    Regardless of whether or not you believe in viruses: 12 employees treating 1 patient, that is a fact: the Radboud hospital says it itself and they are never wrong. And that's at least 12! Over a period of 2 days. And for what: to take some blood and remove some urine (from 1 patient). For this they need 12 people in Radboud over a period of 2 days! 12 people in contact with something (or someone, depending on how you look at it), if I can believe the news (and which I never do, but that's besides the point), which is very dangerous and very contagious. An ounce less perhaps on hands at bedside, what does infection prevention say about that?

    By the way: Imagine if there were 20 patients with that virus in that hospital at the same time, then that hospital would be shut down. Healthcare can never handle that! Unless we start acting normal again and say that almost all the people on that boat are still alive (3 out of 150 are dead and misery, even the most uncorrected misery, always comes in threes).

    Ai (my great friend) says about the ifr of hantavirus:
    'The hantavirus has an Infection Fatality Rate (IFR), which can range from less than 1% to as high as 30-50%'

    In other words: anything is possible that is not a prediction.

    The chance of cloud cover at 12 noon in exactly 1 year is between 0 and 100%. And after rain, I dare say with certainty, comes sunshine. Can I become a weatherman now?

    The chance that Cambuur will become Premier League champion next year is not excluded. Can I now join studio sport as an expert?

    But if I say: the chance of dying from Hanta virus is between 0 and 50%, then I am a scientist!

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