An analysis of excess mortality based on age and sex; the possible role of Covid-19, delayed care and vaccines

by Herman Steigstra, Anton Theunissen, Jillis Kriek en Ronald Meester | 20 Nov 2023, 09:11

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  1. Frans van den Berg

    Maybe it's the aftermath of the virus itself?

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    1. Ward van Koperen

      It is a selective virus if it is suddenly mainly preferred for men aged 45-60. The group that normally has nothing to fear from flu and such.

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      1. Frans van den Berg

        It has now been shown that it is a lab virus, through good investigative journalism. But I wouldn't dare to take the vaccine. If only because I've heard too many stories around me about serious suspected side effects.

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    2. Herman Steigstra

      After-effects that are more intense than corona itself, while we didn't even get sick from it? Isn't that what the vaccine was meant for to prevent that?

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  2. Pyotr

    People between the ages of 60 and 65 have been vaccinated relatively little. Has this been taken into account in the calculation of effects? The same goes for other percentages of shots by age group.

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    1. Herman Steigstra

      The calculations do not take into account vaccinations or corona. In particular, it predicts the baseline for the years 2020-2023 and from there what excess mortality can be determined. From the pattern that then becomes visible, you can virtually rule out certain causes

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      1. Pyotr

        Would be interesting. Because a few months ago, it was already concluded that deferred care did not lead to additional mortality in 2020, 2021, 2022. In that case, 'causes of other excess mortality' mainly involves vaccination damage. At most, you can argue about whether this percentage is 60 percent or almost 100 percent.

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  3. Pyotr

    The article assumes that the excess mortality was almost entirely caused by corona. In the first year, it appears that significantly fewer antibiotics were prescribed. GPs were less so because they were partly closed and or did not want to let infected people in. In hospitals and care homes less so, because when people tested positive, they knew it was a virus, so antibiotics are useless. While every virologist should know that a flu virus infection regularly leads to (also) bacterial pneumonia.

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    1. Herman Steigstra

      No, we hardly mention that on purpose. However, we do mark the first year as "corona only" because there were no vaccines then. Correct note that mortality may be related to withholding antibiotics. We tried to stay away from the medical aspect and focus on the numbers themselves

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  4. French Moon

    It's great that Ronald Meester is also joining us!

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  5. Kees

    The excel file is still missing on github.
    Excess Mortality Model is a txt file.
    Or am I doing something wrong?

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    1. Herman Steigstra

      Apparently something went wrong during installation. It should be there now

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  6. Cees Mul

    Good to read, and really appreciate all this research.
    From a formal point of view, of course, it remains a matter of conjecture. But those jabs are really suspect number 1. Every other suggestion I've seen is nonsensical. Also look at the statistics in Australia, for example, and every country where there is heavy vaccination. Let's not forget that Sweden and Denmark stopped vaccinating people under 60 or 65 quite quickly.
    The current round of vaccinations also seems to result in additional mortality. This is mainly in the older ages. If the excess mortality is in the same age group as the current vaccination round, it will be very difficult to identify a suspect other than the jab. But I don't think I need to tell you that.
    Something else that still bothers me: In the past, vaccines have been taken off the market for less. But... not all serious side effects and deaths follow the jab with mRNA vaccines. These spike proteins can also act as a kind of time bomb. After six months, the heart can just give out, and most people no longer make the connection. Is also much more difficult to prove than someone who dies within a day. So... Of all the 'died suddenly' cases, having the vaccination status would be nice. Not necessarily in the Netherlands, right? Get the impression from VK that they have more data there.
    So what you are missing is vaccination status of the deceased?

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      That's what everyone is missing indeed. That is why we have to constantly take detours to indicate that there may be something wrong with it. We can't go any further (except when I sometimes get 😉 out of my way)

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      1. Cees Mul

        It shows your humanity, Anton:-). You have to be super stoic not to get distraught from time to time by the idiocy around us. Slipper shooting can also be functional:-). Recently we met someone at the movie 'Total Trust' (recommended, but also terrifying), who portrayed it beautifully. Once you see it, you can't go back. No 'red piller' suddenly starts to believe in the narrative. So there's only one direction. And once you discover some cracks in the narrative, anyone with enough functioning brain cells will find out that the whole story is bullshit.
        But then you have to carry it with you, and you never see the world the same again. At least that's been my experience.
        For the time being, more than 3400 deaths in week 44.... There go a few full Boeings.

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  7. Godfather

    If you look at the graphs showing the typical trough at 60, you would say that flu vaccination has a beneficial effect on your health around that age. I don't like that thought because I never believed in that jab. But I didn't expect the non-specific positive side effects that Christine Stabel Benn found with some vaccines either. The bump at the age of 50 is also special. I feel that 50 is a dangerous age for heart problems, but when I look up numbers of cardiovascular diseases, death mainly occurs at a later age: 65 to 75 years.

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  8. Djaja Ottenhof

    Interesting analysis. Good to see that there is no effect below 40. There has been outrageous pressure on young people in particular (I mean people in their twenties and teenagers) to take a vaccine for a disease that did not affect them.

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  9. Pyotr

    Statistics Netherlands (CBS) figures showed that in 2020, the number of deaths from lung diseases and dementia fell by a few thousand compared to previous years. For a net effect, you would have to subtract those deaths to arrive at the more accurate number of 'deaths mainly due to corona'. 'More correct' because withholding medication etc makes the net number even lower.
    Is it possible to specify for 2022 and later for 2023 which diseases are killing more people than before the corona period and also compared to 2020-2021?

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    1. Antoon Rensen

      Isn't it well known that – especially in 2020 – everyone who died WITH corona, including people with lung diseases, dementia, etc., was compulsorily written off as the "cause of death corona"? Surely that seems to be the most obvious explanation for this "decline"?

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  10. Bonne Clock

    Dear Herman, and the rest,

    Thanks for sharing the data. That always shows better how someone has worked.
    I'm not going to figure this out in an hour, just like you didn't make this in an hour.

    I'll build up slowly I suppose. But here are some initial questions.

    1. ik zie in de brondata (“MalCnts”en “FemCnts’), dat leeftijd 0 jaar, van 1994 => 1995 de data halveert, bij zowel de mannen als de vrouwen, en in 2022 => 2023 weer naar verwachte aantallen gaat.
    Could you check this? This will hardly affect the other calculations, but I suspect a small data shift.

    2. The population grows throughout the year. I usually use the population numbers on January 1st. Which point did you choose?

    3. To create a baseline, use the "Linest" function. This gives a value of the trend of 2010-2019, and then you add it to the mortality of 2022, to arrive at a 2023 forecast.
    Can you explain why you are using the 2022 data to come up with a 2023 forecast? instead of, for example, using the "Trend" function, and making an estimate / forecast for 2023 based on this trend?
    The "Trend" function extends the trend to the desired year, as it were. Then you are not dependent on fluctuations in the previous year, but previously accrued deviations in 2020 and 2021.

    I will go through the data further, and if any more questions arise, I will report back.

    With fr. greeting
    Bonne Clock

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    1. Herman Steigstra

      The halving will have to do with the average number of inhabitants.
      As described in the text, I use the table with average number of inhabitants.
      The values for 2023, like those for 2020-2022, are based on the trend line through 2015-2019

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  11. G.L.M. van der Weijden

    Will you also take into account by now that the state and CBS will blame the aging population as much as possible? Hopefully, the independent investigation will be completed financially in early 2024, that still seems to be a challenge, I appreciate this extensive analysis very much, after all, interests are high to continue looking for the cover-up.

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      Everything is calculated by age year here. This includes the 'ageing ages' and we also know the absolutes per year. Playing hide and seek is no longer possible.

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  12. Jan van der Zanden

    Actually, a CBS answer in response to my WOO request about excess mortality and vaccination.
    Obviously very unsatisfactory, but they get follow-up questions by return mail.

    See http://disq.us/t/4m77hjq at Maurice's.

    If you send me an email, I'll send you the complete docs.

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  13. Steven Postma

    I would really like to see a graph of the average age at death of all those who died that year vertically against the relevant year horizontally.

    That is a very easy graph to determine, it cannot be tampered with, and the precise cause of death is not important here.

    Calculating it per year averages out normal seasonal influences nicely.

    A sharp drop in the average age of death from 2021 would strongly support a planned depopulation argument, especially considering that corona gain-of-function research has been going on for decades, which is undisputed by many patents.

    The graph can also be shown per month with a running average over the last 12 months - such as when the monthly inflation rate is determined.

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      I really don't see how a decline in life expectancy should support a depopulation argument. But you can find such a graph, for example, at the Royal Actuarial Society in the AG forecast table 2024 . That's this graph:

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    2. J.G.M. van der Zanden

      That graph is correct. not much to “mess with”.
      But unfortunately that graph doesn't say much, because it doesn't account for aging and possibly... other effects (such as immigration) have been corrected.
      See the detailed discussions and conclusions about this elsewhere on this website.

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      1. Herman Steigstra

        That is of course nonsense. You see that there are %'s along the axes, SO it has been converted as a % of normal mortality. So this graph says it all. Excess mortality has shifted to lower ages and disappeared at older ages.
        In addition, I assume that vaccination damage is a more or less constant value. Take 1:1000 as an example. The risk for the oldest ages to die naturally is in the percentage range. At 90 years even 10%. Then the extra chance of dying from the vaccine is negligible, or the normal risk of death due to the absence of corona. Break-even is around 65 years of age. This includes an increasing risk of death due to vaccination. That's what we see here

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        1. J.G.M. van der Zanden

          I didn't respond to your graphs, because they have those corrections in them.
          But to Steven's literal question.

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