Flawed researchers brush up their act with a novelty: the ‘Healthy Vaccinee Effect’

by Anton Theunissen | 14 jun 2025, 11:06

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  1. Vincent

    The final conclusion will start with: "With the knowledge of today ..." then turn into the debt to divide into small bits about everyone who played and role in the whole. Then everyone has a little bitter, nobody needs to be addressed too much for mistakes and we can continue as friends, on to the next pandemic.

    As I recently heard, it is easier to forgive people who were wrong for years than to "forgive" the people who were right from the start.

    PS there are missing here and there some words in the (possibly written in enthusiasm) piece, if you want someone to check again on voluntary basics if they are put online, I will be recommended.

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    1. C de Vries

      Thanks again for your sharp criticism, Anton.

      At European level, the street for the EU countries is already being swept clean thanks to
      The French company Epiconcept, which is apparent from list of authors took the lead in writing this article (first and last authors)

      There is clearly a market for this company to e.g. The b formulating the b formulating in the Netherlands is properly processed by Statistics Netherlands 😀.

      It is still a preview, but it will probably be placed quickly and effortlessly with the well -known Eurosurveillance magazine. (Yes, that of the Droste PCR Paper)

      Beautiful example of European bundling of business and politics (was this bundling, fascio not characteristic of fascism either?).

      Stays (getting complete data) at best a case: if the calf is drowned, one dampens the well (a self -created digital well, also probably that).

      Europe is not blamed and will solve all this well. Stays four. Must be standing up at all costs (to big to fail?)

      The digital messages of the joining forces (fascistoid) Bourla and Von der Leyden are, however, a station too far.

      PS Who will ask the parliamentary questions proposed by M/B/W in substitlines and to whom? Karremans has since been promoted to economic affairs.

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      1. Anton Theunissen

        Epicon concept? I didn't know yet.
        Máar seriously, is Karremans gone again? You can see how serious that file is taken.

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        1. c

          Unfortunately, Miss Tielen saw by the post (with "prevention") by Karremans. Miss Tielen who was a mother of a child deceased by vaccination that it was/is just an incident. Totally numb and unscrupulous and in favor of coercion. Wishing off her crades and the hinges that she will still commit will not work with a piece about HVE I fear.

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          1. C de Vries

            Hyena Thielen

            Thielen zat ook als Karremans support bij commissie vergadering om de Korte belachelijk te maken (zie noot 3).

            Laatste raakte daardoor duidelijk van haar a propos. Opzetje geslaagd en nu dus beloont en officieel in functie om kritische geluiden verder te smoren.

            Hoe duidelijk wil je het hebben. Alles wordt in het werk gezet om doofpot dicht te houden. Misselijk makend.

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  2. Miranda

    In management terms this is called: "Compliance". That is, all noses in the same direction, otherwise you will be out or you will be parked on a side track.
    There are roughly two reasons to adapt and omit (well -founded) criticism: fear and opportunism, or both.
    Either they are afraid of their job (livelihood, mortgage and the like), or they think they can benefit from it (more research money, a promotion, etc.).
    Very unfortunate that (scientific) integrity has to be lost.
    I can still understand a bit of understanding for the fear hazes, not at all for the opportunists.

    Fortunately, there are still honest researchers, doctors, publicists, etc. who dare to swim against the current.

    Thank you Anton, another nice article.

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    1. Willem

      A third, and I think most common reason, is that criticism is not delivered because people don't see it.

      After 5 years, such stupidity may seem unlikely, but don't forget that the newspaper reading/being instructed that "Covid is over", after which they are stare at the other Looney tunes that the newspaper and Teevee manage to serve daily to the non -suspicious reader/viewer.

      Ik sluit niet uit dat ook deze groep minder stupide is dan datze zich voordoet, maar dat ze hun stupiditeit onbewust proberen te verwerken (erkennen wat er gebeurd is in hun leven) net zoals als, bij gebrek aan een beter voorbeeld (ik haat 1984, vind het het een rotboek), het personage Parsons=de gezagtrouwe buurman van Winston Smith, die tegen de lamp loopt omdat hij ‘s nachts in zijn dromen zegt: ‘Down with Big Brother without being aware of this!

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      1. Cees Mul

        What strikes me is that most critical scientists are retired. Emiritus professors can afford to speak out. This also applies to the climate discussion. People who are still active are influenced by all the reasons mentioned above. Of course there are exceptions, but the pattern is there. And perhaps they have more time to reflect and to distance themselves from the issues of the day.

        Not scientists (the vast majority of people) follow the propaganda in the mainstream media. It strikes me that opinions are simply repeated. If an article already starts with "the Antivaxxer" Robert Kennedy, the content is not even relevant anymore. Most newspaper articles are of a sad level and often based on "gaslighting", not on content. The readers do not bother to find out what Kennedy actually says. What he says sounds surprisingly wise.

        I have tried to have a substantive conversation several times, but it doesn't work. The gap between my observations and their reality is too great. If only they took the trouble to follow the conversation with Pierre Capel, for example, a light might come. I may not be that good at it either. Too little patience.

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        1. Anton Theunissen

          I have sometimes shown a Capel video to someone. After a few minutes he started to copy him with his affected statement, wobbly voice, "and this and that etcetera".
          Heilloos.

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      2. Anton Theunissen

        "People" as in "the population"? At least 80% live in a media -aged world, that is a fact. Their reality is what they see on TV and in the newspaper. And with them in the street where 80% watch TV and reads newspaper.
        The fact that they do not puncture it critically can not blame them because they just don't have that power.

        The links that are before, that's what it's all about, because they abuse that inability. The last fire wall that could protect the archeos, journalism, has been doing fanatically in the Social Engineering for some time and is getting ahead throughout Pieter Klok.

        In short, 80% ((ahead: 85%) "Do not see it" by definition. That is the mass that is played with unilateral reporting to create Momentum. They should be forced to choose between different visions.

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        1. Willem

          You assume that they know what it's like behind the news.

          How do you know that?

          In any case, I don't see anything of it. What I see is that a delusion of the day is followed, both before and behind the news, day in day out. Those who do not want to go along with that will have to think (learn/recover). That is not that difficult, but most people do not want to take on the responsibility of themselves at all. Why should they too? You only get more lazier.

          What is the answer to two plus two?
          -What you say doctor.

          Or

          What is the answer to two plus two?
          -Four!
          That is very disappointing me.
          -Sorry doctor.

          Or

          What is the answer to two plus two?
          -Five!
          You are well aware of the latest state of affairs regarding your illness!
          -Dank you doctor.

          That's how it goes, and not just in consultation rooms from hospitals. I can't help it either.

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          1. Anton Theunissen

            "You assume that they know what it's like behind the news." No. They should know it, but they have lost that critical capacity. Unconsciously or deliberately - I don't know. It will be a mixture, some do, most not.

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    2. c

      Yet I have now become a bit tired from against the current swimming. All the fun of my family members is threatened by the heat. Would all those cult members now be really afraid of the disease of suddenly because of so -called heat stress or do they know very well that there is another cause? Also overweight is of course not useful with heat, but it is not that warm at all. Yesterday, two extremely fat young women were distributed for free (poor quality) ice cream at a primary school. All children were held in a very long line. It took almost the entire school afternoon (I came back and hours later). So sad.

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  3. Miranda

    In a democracy, a balance is sought between the different interests of all citizens.
    Our Western society is no longer democracy. Nowadays it's all about the interests of the ultra-rich. All this under the guise of economic growth and efficiency. The idea is that a kind of trickle-down process occurs, so that everyone also benefits a bit (and that is just the question).
    Democratic processes are slow and inefficient. Top-down methods to represent economic interests as efficiently as possible are:
    Indoctrination (persuasive communication, nudging, disinformation control, etc.).
    Control (rules, control systems and fueling social control).
    Make part of the population complicit (Fueling opportunism, bonuses, prestigious prices, etc).
    And finally: repression and blackmail.
    The coronacrisis has made it clear that we are in the middle of it.
    Crisping crises is very helpful. And also delivers a mecca for speculation capitalists.

    In the end, the system gets stuck automatically. It is fake, more and more lies are being added and it is unjust. That will not be sustainable in the long term. The last convulsions are unfortunately annoying.

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    1. Miranda

      I cannot determine which of the four tactics the RIVM/NIVEL researchers have fallen prey to. Probably a combination of the first three.

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    2. c

      Sent an e-mail to the virus variety editing about the call from Foodwatch that the science (food but also more general) is reversed. The cause is mainly sought in the cuts of education by the government, but the real reason is also mentioned and recognized. So purchased science. We know here how it is because it is even worse. Nevertheless, I see the article as a small crack in the glorifying by many of "the science" that we have been bombarded by, among other things, politicians, media and even the judiciary.

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  4. zz

    Cees: Kennedy, I experience that just as you describe it. Very sensible language and policy, but smeared and framed in the media. Downright embarrassing, especially here in NL. VK, NRC, NOS, ...: name them, all the same (silly) line. Not to mention politics. How do we get out of this rabbithole in GN?
    By the way: good piece again, Anton.

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