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    1. Anton Theunissen

      Yes thanks! I'm working on that thanks to the previous link you sent. Let's see if I can make something of it.

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  1. Lou

    As I understand it now as a layman:

    1 Million people Ref. mortality In Percentages
    1,000,000 2,500 0.25%

    Without HVE effect Expected Mortality
    Vaccinated 90% 900,000 2,250 0.25%
    Unvaccinated 10% 100,000 250 0.25%
    1,000,000 2,500 0.25%

    Caused by HVE effect (Seriously Ill NOT vaccinated, Healthy ARE due to freedom)

    Vaccinated 90% 898,750 997 0.11% =0.4×0.25% = 0.4 x 0.25%
    Unvaccinated 10% 101,250 1,503 1.48% =5.9×0.25% = 6 x 0.25%
    1,000,000 2,500 0.25%
    (Unvaccinated people now appear to have 10x as many deaths, 1.48% versus 0.11%, due to the seriously ill)

    Statistical correction? Count the 1250 deaths of unvaccinated people among vaccinated people?
    Vaccinated 90% 900,000 2,500 0.278%
    Unvaccinated 10% 100,000 250 0.25%
    1,000,000 2,500 0.25%

    This then gives a kind of unpolluted 0 position?
    (Doesn't apply to a vaccination rate of e.g. 50% in my opinion)

    So the seriously ill who have died should be counted among the vaccinated anyway,
    Simply because they would have been vaccinated in a healthy state given the politics.

    Then you are going to add the non-seriously ill Covid deaths to the vaccinated and unvaccinated?

    Or would it not be better to exclude all seriously ill people?

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      "So we have to count the seriously ill who have died among the vaccinated anyway, simply because they would have been vaccinated in a healthy state given politics." That's a strong one indeed.
      Exclusion is another possibility. According to Nivel, mortality will then be HIGHER! See the last post by Maurice. It's a mess.

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      1. Pyotr

        I proposed more than three years ago as a compromise that this exclusion would therefore lead to a more credible calculation of the 'vaccine' effectiveness. I then offered an article about this to the Volkskrant, among others. Three minutes later I was told that they were not going to post it.

        P.S. Also (younger) people who take/use certain drugs (chemo) against cancer in particular were not vaccinated or were vaccinated much later (if they were still alive)
        They also have a greater chance of dying unvaccinated.

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  2. Lou

    I had made a nice overview in Excel and I had made the same visual with spaces in my comment, but all spaces have been removed and it becomes a mess. Unfortunately I couldn't post a picture with my presentation. I find math in online text very difficult and in states it comes across much better visually to me. If you want, I can email it to you.

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      1. Lou

        here's an HTML attempt 🙂

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        Statistical Analysis of Mortality Rates

        1 Million People
        Expected mortality
        In percentages

        1,000,000
        2,500
        0.25%

        Without HVE effect

        Group
        Population
        Expected mortality
        In percentages

        Vaccinated 90%
        900,000
        2,250
        0.25%

        Unvaccinated 10%
        100,000
        250
        0.25%

        Total
        1,000,000
        2,500
        0.25%

        Caused by HVE effect (Seriously Ill NOT vaccinated, Healthy ARE due to freedom)

        Group
        Population
        Expected mortality
        In percentages
        Computation

        Vaccinated 90%
        898,750
        997
        0.11%
        0.4% = 0.4 x 0.25%

        Unvaccinated 10%
        101,250
        1,503
        1.48%
        5.9% = 6 x 0.25%

        Total
        1,000,000
        2,500
        0.25%

        Statistical correction? Count the 1250 deaths of unvaccinated people among vaccinated people?

        Group
        Population
        Adjusted mortality
        In percentages

        Vaccinated 90%
        900,000
        2,500
        0.278%

        Unvaccinated 10%
        100,000
        250
        0.25%

        Total
        1,000,000
        2,500
        0.25%

        So the seriously ill who have died should be counted among the vaccinated anyway,
        Simply because they would have been vaccinated in a healthy state given the politics.

        Then you are going to count the non-seriously ill Covid deaths among the vaccinated and unvaccinated?

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  3. Cees Mul

    I am still missing an important factor that seems to have disappeared in the violence. Or maybe it's been repaired in the meantime. The 'vaccinated' status was only granted weeks after (usually the second) vaccination in all countries involved. Everyone who died within a few weeks after vaccination was therefore unvaccinated. Norman Fenton said that this is how you can make the biggest poison appear effective.
    This was already clear in 2021 in the statistics of ONS (which at the time provided more insight than the Dutch authorities). It was just in there.
    It seems to me that this factor makes the HVE pale in comparison.

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      These studies, with those Kaplan-Meier graphs, are really from the puncture date.

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      1. Willem

        The explanation can be found in the Meester/Jacobs report. HVE is (also in my opinion, I agree with Cees) peanuts compared to the following (quote report Meester/Jacobs)

        'Another possible factor, we know, is that some people have not given permission for their vaccination records to be included in central research registers. As a result, they are logically not included in CIMS, even though they have indeed received a vaccination. These people are therefore counted as "unvaccinated". It is unclear exactly how often this has occurred (reported, but not precise, figures speak of ±7%); The large mortality spike among unvaccinated people suggests that this has happened disproportionately and remarkably often in people who died shortly after vaccination.'

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      2. Anton Theunissen

        Die ontbrekende 7% is door Nivel grotendeels aangevuld vanuit hun patiënten databases. Die hadden kennelijk geen probleem met de non-consenters. Zie eerdere artikelen of kijk op https//steig.nl voor meer cijfermatige info.

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  4. Miranda

    Regarding the pollution of the NIVEL data:

    The unregistered have also not had a vaccination passport.
    When the QR code was introduced, these people could still register in CIMS. That was necessary to get a vaccination passport. Apparently a fairly large group did not make use of it. Why not? Were they so principled or were they already dead or almost dead by then?
    This group must be disconnected from the unvaccinated. Any research that lumps these two groups together is in fact pointless.

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