This afternoon, 20 February, The Excess Mortality Debate took place. My expectations were not high anyway, but what was shown beat everything. I have co-written something1 With the intention of making a small report but the suds are not worth the cabbage. We have to conclude that we are ruled by institutionalized incompetence.
If you ever read something here, or on steig.nl or maurice, then you are better informed than these policymakers. It's terrifying, and I really mean it.
The politicians hide political blunders of the magnitude of multiple manslaughter behind blundering scientists, who do not want their work to be evaluated and therefore advise negatively on research proposals, an advice that is gratefully adopted by the politicians. They think they form an impregnable bastion. It is an unprecedented merger of interests.
I don't waste any more words on it. I copy-paste a text here that I posted on LinkedIn at the risk of my own life. Below that are three video fragments from the last fifteen minutes of the debate, then you get an impression
This morning I posted on LinkedIn:
Today at 14:00 the excess mortality debate in the House of Representatives. I am very curious to see if they are starting to realize what is going on in society. The media and the public communication of the institutes are covering it in such a way that many have no idea. Read something about it.
This article for example is about the excess mortality of women between the ages of 40 and 50. In 2024, mortality was 30% higher than expected. THIRTY PERCENT. That is almost a third more deaths than normal. That is bizarrely high.
As a communications man, I am baffled by how this is reported in the media (not) and where the uproar from the scientific, medical and political angle remains. Will this excess mortality debate change that?
We'll see.
And after the debate:
It was a layman's conversation.
De Korte probeerde van alles om op breed onderzoek aan te dringen. Herhaaldelijk herhaalde zijn de noodzaak van een "Multivariaat" onderzoek waarmee zij natuurlijk bedoelde dat de vaccinaties ook meegenomen zouden moeten worden maar dat is blasfemie. Dus dat durfde niemand hardop uit te spreken.
If you can't put your finger on the sore spot, everyone casually skips around it.
Karremans made it clear: ZonMW and the scientists who collaborated on the previous studies that are now disputed and criticized by external scientists all advise against external research. Reason for the State Secretary to ignore two motions.
The state is untouchable.
Disconcerting phrases were passed about 'moments of excess mortality', heat and flu waves, the leveling off of peaks, an ex-CBS employee (Pierik) appeared to have no idea how the baseline is determined, they explained to each other how to calculate excess mortality, etc. etc.
What amateurism.
Virtually all attendees emphasized that we all know, in line with the scientific consensus, that vaccines work. No further research is necessary and data will only remain available to stakeholders. The correlation between vaccinations and excess mortality is non-negotiable in the Netherlands.
Three short impressions at the End of debateso After approx. 2 hours of exchanging information about the worrying excess mortality in the Netherlands. (There was a break of about 20 minutes in between.). These are the leaders who are in charge of our health. Where is RFK when you need it?
State Secretary Vincent Karremans explains how it works with excess mortality and models and that you have to understand what you are researching. After two hours of debate on oversterte,
N.B.: Pierik was announced as an ex-CBS employee. I can imagine it.
In the last video, Ria de Korte (NSC) once again she really tries... but it's not strong.
Just as the cabinet was protected by the OMT, VWS has ZonMW as bodyguards. The scientists around ZonMW (who are they? OMT relatives perhaps? Those people behind those incorrect studies and interpretations: Nivel, RIVM, UMCU, CBS?) protect the Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport. After all, ZonMW is directly under the Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport, so it is actually incomprehensible that this is even possible under the guise of 'science'. And Tielen makes a slightly tipsy impression, but that could also be due to adrenaline. That last question about that data too... Attje Kuiken has nothing to do with it.
What. One. Debacle.
P.S.: op 27 maart worden de moties ingediend. Lees dat in Excess mortality debate II - the virus varia motions
- QUICK NOITITES
Ria De Korte (NSC) asks why a motion has never been carried out. Cites high excess mortality rates
Tielen throws sand in the engine. She finds percentages of excess mortality not scientific: "blanks".
Julius Bushoff m(GL-PvdA): And what about Solar MW?
De Korte argues for research into overall research, "multifactorial".
Bushoff wants to discuss why ZonMW is not being taken seriously – he demands studies from NSC. (?)
The effect of the "measures" is discussed.
The Short mentions the absurd figures from the Nivel study. Vaccination is mentioned.
She asks for a commitment that there will be a new and thorough major investigation. Access to all available data. And the link to vaccinations.
Calculation: RIVM baseline is questioned. Based on thorough scientific research.
Tielen clearly does not want in-depth scientific research. Asks what data exactly should be made available
Bushoff: RIVM has already done research. Why even more research.
Thiadens (PVV): heartbreaking elderly people in nursing homes. Vaccinations have led to fewer deaths. Deferred care is the real problem. I do want the research, with additional research into delayed care.
Transparency about vax data. It is incomprehensible that CBS is hindering this.
Would like to review. Thiadens also uses the vv article by Hans Verwaart. (30% in women between 40-50). Not just post-covid or lockdown stress.
Tielen: Laughing: please fact-check whether excess mortality has never been so high. (a distortion of his words "never before 5 years of consecutive excess mortality")
Covid-19 was bad and vaccinations saved a lot of lives. For VVD, further investigation is not necessary. Makes a bridge to pandemic preparedness.
He does argue for the interchangeability of data (not realizing what that will expose). Also argues for a digital vaccination booklet because she now always has to walk around with two yellow booklets.
Bushoff: excess mortality is of all times. Muddled story about excess mortality, measures, researching causes and measures. Vaccines help, of course, we know that, to put no doubt about that. Comes with correlation-causation story. Something about a flu that has disappeared.
Research into measures ZonMW is useful.
The Short: "Ik wil geen twijfel zaaien over vaccins want ik ben ook gevaccineerd."
Bushoff: more research into delayed care. Would like to learn lessons from the effects of measures. Also socio-geographical characteristics.
Pierik (BBB and ex-CBS employee) Starts talking about aging... 2021-2023 were 'stable years'. Sprinkles with absolute figures. Asks about causes of excess mortality. What tests are needed?
Thiadens: What is BBB's position on the demand for more research? Are RIVM mortality monitor data leading? (assumes some skill, turns out to be misunderstanding)
Pierik (BBB) babbles a bit about excess mortality and importantly, I can't make soup out of it.
De Korte asks whether the ex-CBSer understands that the baseline is being raised. Pierik then starts talking about the CBS forecast. He has no idea, starts talking about heat waves and flu waves again. That man is not good.
Thiadens repeats the baseline question.
Pierik starts talking about CBS forecasts again. (they don't know that RIVM uses different figures than CBS.) Pierik starts talking about population growth and aging again. (It can't be filmed actually, and something like that has worked at CBS.)
State Secretary Vincent Karremans: Excess mortality is decreasing, recovery visible. Lots of data available. Vaccinations have prevented mortality. Consensus. Emphasize: vaccination helps.
We have a broad picture. ZonMw has twice asked for an integrated study. External research will not provide any new insights. CBS and RIVM are keeping their finger on the pulse.
Questions:
1. GRADES
Refers to Cochrane research. (De Korte said that Cochrane also concludes that further research is necessary, is dismissed)
RIVM mortality monitor is the main source (that is the one with the increased baseline and therefore underestimated excess mortality)
Better calculation? No use and necessity to investigate that. RIVM is doing well. Excess mortality therefore decreases due to reference from previous years.
The Short: why not look at foreign methods?
State secretary: RIVM removes the peaks. He talks about a "certain temporary excess mortality"
De Korte is still trying to push through a demographic approach. State Secretary cuts it off.
People are now fact-checking the statement "highest excess mortality ever"
The State Secretary then confuses the weekly bandwidth with long-term excess mortality.
A lot of research has been done. Again about heat waves and cold periods. (the only thing he remembered from a crash course, it seems)
Consensus that external research does not provide added value.
Pierik and State Secretary ping-pong some irrelevant information back and forth.
SCIENCE
There is already enough research. Scientific committee advises against twice.
HECKLING
The Short: Cochrane: also calls for uniform analysis methods and multivariate analysis.
SS Vincent Karremans: fences again with the Scientific Committee of highly respected scientists.
Thiadens: Excess mortality 5 consecutive years unique.
Bushoff: starts talking about cutbacks...
Thiadens: Are there signs that costs are a barrier to further research?
Ss UK? Not known.
DATA
UK says work is being done on better data exchange in healthcare (so not outside of it).
VACCINATIONS
UK: about NIVEL research. Parliamentary question was received too late to answer now.
Begint onder het kopje "vaccinaties" praten over het digitale vaccinatieboekje.
(This looks like a set-up with Tielen, who repeatedly diverts attention to the digitization of vax books. Heeft geen moer met oversterfte te maken. Hoe vul je anders het kopje "VACCINATIES" netjes in?)
Report Meester/Jacobs not included, is only one investigation. ZonMW studies say otherwise.
The research proposal had already been
a) rejected by ZonMw,
b) not published peer-reviewed (neither are the ZonMw studies, by the way),
c) expertise of the authors (professors) is found to be insufficient (by those who are criticized).
So the State Secretary ignores the research in a "substantiated" way.
REMAINING
Postponed care is coming up again. Adjust measures in the future (also has nothing to do with the current excess mortality).
Bushoff: Is there any medium-term research underway?
UK: yes, there is a large ZonMW programme on the broad consequences of the measures.
Tiadens: So there will be no investigation?
UK: It HAS been investigated.
SECOND TERM
The Short: Motion for multivariate research will NOT be carried out. Why not? Twice unanimously adopted by the House. "Disappointing".
Bushoff: Confidence in the supervisory committee!
The Short: Political statements are dismissed by professors.
Bushoff: again ad authoritative fallacies.
Tielens becomes personal, De Korte accuses that, as an epidemiologist with a PhD, she is stuck on the same mantra (Strange, because Kamp-Tielens constantly uses ad authoritative arguments: ZonMw scientists know better.). Want to hear a specific research objective: what is the research question?
Tielen is very enthusiastic about himself. Don't want any more debates about excess mortality! On to pandemic preparedness! Starts chatting about her digital vax book again.
Pierik (ex-CBS) closing word: has learned a lot this afternoon. (Apparently it doesn't take much for that.)
Vaccinations are not linked to excess mortality. Deaths are very bad.
UK philosophizes about what excess mortality is and starts talking about peaks again. (The man has no idea of excess mortality definitions or measurement methods, mixes everything up.)
Thalens again mentions the 30% excess mortality among women aged 40-50
UK starts ranting about models, aging and peaks.
I give up. ↩︎
Judith Tielen plays the clown. Give me Pipo and Mamalou at least we could really laugh about that. Ria de Korte of NSC gave a good argument in terms of content, but regularly choked on word choice and had little real substantiation. F.M. Thiadens (PVV) had the best introduction and read from our work, ha ha. And that Cor Pierik from BBB, could that be a brother of pimp Roland? I had noticed before that they had the same last name, but now it became very clear!
Thank you for your report and sitting through and watching this debate. My pessimism won over the curiosity to go and see and listen for myself so I waited for your experiences.
https://www.ninefornews.nl/staatssecretaris-van-vws-begaat-hier-blunder-van-jewelste-wat-een-gotspe/
The state secretary is not blundering here at all, but has been hired as a puppet to distract attention from the sad reality.
How long will we allow politics to squander such core tasks in such a way?
Hey now I'm grumbling again grrr.
Power games
Financial interests
Fictitious democracy
Puppet show
Disinformation
Agenda 2030
Wax nose
Aka
We are being squeaked.
But we already knew that...
Please continue to do what you are doing, your knowledge and expertise is so needed. We must continue to believe that one day there will be recognition for all jab victims💪
In 1 word: sad.
I find it really frightening too. These are the people who have life and death. About the protection of our children. I feel less and less safe under this mismanagement.
I have exactly the same thing, Anton. Will our children still be safe if there is another plandemic??
Of course, everyone is happy with as little in-depth research as possible and hiding behind professors/scientists. After all, all these politicians were pro vaccination. Rather the comfortable lie than the inconvenient truth.
The greatest crime of all time must be denied, misunderstood or camouflaged in any case. But the truth will one day be indisputably established.
Even these parliamentarians are aware of this. That's why they anticipate the eternal excuse "Ich habe es nicht gewusst".
Sorry Anton but I really have to help you out of the dream, if only it were mismanagement.
In politics, people rise to the top because they slime themselves up in the right way.
It has nothing to do with expertise or independence anymore,
We vote for voting cattle who really have no idea what it is about.
In my opinion, this is a deliberately designed system error to give citizens the idea that there is something to choose from. And then a critical citizen may have the idea that we are looking at mismanagement.
What ignorant people and what incompetence. How many words do you need to talk so much nonsense. Karremans thinks independent research is a waste of government money. Hmm??
In any case, I think that these kinds of politicians and ill-prepared meetings are an obvious waste of taxpayers' money.
They have an assignment and they carry it out. It is one big puppet theater. Scandalous!
This week two funerals of close family from group of friends. Male, in his thirties, turbo cancer. Woman, in her mid-fifties, perfectly healthy, heart failure.
In short, "they" say it is safe and effective and try to prove that it is not, without letting go of source data. And if you admit that you don't trust us, that's incitement. Vance is right: we don't live here is a democracy.
Thank you for this concise overview. Deeply sad yes. A Secretary of State who makes it very clear that he does not understand it properly and does not intend to change it, and then makes a decision on the basis of his ignorance, that is worrying!
'And making a decision on the basis of his ignorance, that's worrying!'
In 2020, Rutte echoed the mantra that you had to make 100% decisions with 50% of the data.
Nothing has changed since then. Though...
Today, 100% of the data is available, but people (from the room to zonmw to the academy) still do their utmost to make 100% decisions with 50% of the data and to approve them (afterwards).
It is as old as the world. It's how miracles come into the world. They are also called half-truths. And a half-truth, as we know, is still a fallacy.
The reason why the belief in half-truths, let's call it that, is so persistent, I think has a psychological component. There has been so much faith in it, so much invested in it, that there is actually no way back for all those people who were on stage at Nieuwsuur, de Volkskrant, the chamber and other likes... talking clubs were preaching the passion. They really believed it, up to the exclusion of entire groups of unvaccinated people from society. They have not shown the best side of themselves, despite all the honorable ranks and positions that these people have held in the course of their lives. together.
Anyone who sees the covid drama in its true essence must conclude that all those experts, politicians, scientists and you name it at the time were insane. But that's not how those people want to see themselves. That is out of the question, and that is why they live on in the delusion that you can make 100% decisions with 50% of the data. These people are half-truths themselves.
And since the majority of those people are (or already are) approaching retirement age, they hope that by singing it out for a while longer, they will disappear into the grave as the great politician, scientist, which role they played to themselves in 2020-2022. People know better, but they don't dare to acknowledge for themselves what they really were around 2020-2022. Poor relatives who in x number of years will be allowed to explain to the news reporter why the late father, mother, grandfather or grandmother acted so insanely and never came back to it.
That decisions made by the insane always lead to misery, I think has been proven once again. You would like to give these madmen some courage and guts and from time to time (believe me) I try to do that too. It is not completely without success (I believe) but all in all and in conclusion a huge effort with (very) little yield.
Fwiw: Anthony Burgess has written a book about it (it's been a long time since I've read the book) in which miracles of God happen by means of concealment of facts. The book (earthly powers) was/is dismissed for its scandalous homosexual character. But even that is only half the story. That's how it goes with those things everywhere and always. It's nothing special.
Dear Anton,
Thank you for your impression. To cry indeed. Who has also failed for 5 years are the pranksters. That was different before Corona, see Arjan Lubach about ZonMW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYsJFW-vSA. While the need is now a lot higher.
True. There were a few for which kudos! Know someone personally and they asked for secrecy from me, among others. The person received a bag of money and recorded some videos with the assignment to make corona measures normal, also for children. This person suddenly realized that there was more to come than the measures in the spring of 2020 and it apparently ate away at the conscience... Motivation: Lost another job, mortgage and young family. The contact is broken but betraying them is next-level. I myself also remain more or less anonymous on the internet at the request of my loved ones.
"betray them"? What do you mean, he just accepted a production order from the government, didn't he? What can be betrayed about that? I don't see any harm in making information videos, especially if you don't yet understand what's behind it. But I have also worked in advertising, in terms of ethics I have seen that chafe more often.
Of course, it is about those who commissioned it.
That person knew about the second series of videos but did not refuse the assignment. And so there were (are) many... Today, I don't know how to deal with friends whose children continued to perform deadly protocols while knowing the consequences. A number of them did not allow themselves to be cvaxxed and did not openly... Proud of my whole family, they have looked for other work and really not the nicest and/or just as well-paid work. With those abrasive commercials there is still the advertising code committee 😉, well you would think that they should also take a big action.
You can't betray a bank that transfers government money either.
Betrayed may be the wrong word, but that's how this public person described it. I have no proofs to hand over... I had sent evidence about how "long covid" was going to be put on the map and very early in 2021 to, among others, Mr. Maurice de Hond. Banks have their own approach, if you don't hobble along, they threaten to take away your bank account or really do it... Sorry that my stories are not more hopeful, but it really messes around.
With what is coming up in the USA, among others, these people are going to have a very difficult time. They can, and should, be considered complicit in genocide.
The greatest crime of all time must be denied, misunderstood or camouflaged in any case. But the truth will one day be indisputably established.
Even these parliamentarians are aware of this. That's why they anticipate the eternal excuse "Ich habe es nicht gewusst".
Around the covid period, I started following debates in the House of Representatives for the first time and I was quite shocked by the level. It actually made me so sad and despondent that I don't dare to look anymore. Lately it has happened to me that I am genuinely surprised when things go well in this country. For example, that a water pipe is properly constructed or a road. Then I just hope that there is still knowledge and expertise available in executive organizations.
The vulnerability of man gives the limitation. That is exactly the core and common thread of the Corona crisis.
My father once said: "we are ruled by fools". I do not think there is any better evidence for this statement than this disgrace in the Chamber. And then that name, Karremans, where do we know it from. I am now deeply ashamed to be Dutch... what an ignoramus, Thielen in the lead.
In fact, the cause lies in the one-sided and misleading information provided to these politicians by the Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport. These politicians have been 'nudged', or steered in a certain direction with the help of persuasive communication techniques.
The Nivel researchers themselves know very well what is wrong with their research and the interpretation of the results. They are not that stupid after all. Probably this conclusion had to come out, otherwise they would not receive research funding or they would not be allowed to publish the results.
I haven't watched any debates since the fall of 2020. The level is really below 0, regardless of which cabinet "governs". The only one who rules is the ignoramus.
How could it ever have come to this?
I too am deeply ashamed to be Dutch these days...
Gidion van Meijeren is an exception I think?
As long as the ministries are still in the possession of the communist party D66 which has had crucial positions taken everywhere by people (read criminals) they have bought through consultancy firms, nothing is going to change, and certainly not with the ministers in the current cabinets, if we don't make drastically different choices as a people, it will stay that way. And the people sleep on, see it all around me.
My God, my God, where has common sense gone in the Netherlands? https://lnkd.in/eJwsXYtk and for example https://lnkd.in/espyk7a9
With so much ignorance in the House of Representatives and in our government, our country is "governed"..... Pffffffff.
By the way, fine, Anton, that you still keep your finger on the pulse... One of the few in this sleeping country. Why is NO ONE looking at what is coming out in America?
Good Anton
"My expectations weren't high anyway"
Isn't that the overstatement of the year?
Please allow me to refer to my earlier post (under 'CBS gaslighting') in which I let historian Mathieu Segers speak, who had previously observed that in Dutch political culture (and their media) the attention in problem analysis and policy approach has shifted from causes to effects, with literally and figuratively 'killing' effects for citizens.
The consequences that the political attention is focused on in this case is NOT the excess mortality. But it is the chopping block of their political heads. And THOSE consequences must therefore be avoided, if necessary at the cost of many civilian deaths. This is the serious ethical shortcoming that Segers pointed out (not to mention the minority of integrity).
Therefore: see how political issues are dealt with politically in the Netherlands, also known as 'problem areas' or crises, such as global warming, nitrogen emissions, agriculture and food security, housing shortage, immigration/refugees, growing distrust of government and its institutions, disinformation or undermining of 'democracy and the rule of law', etc. The highest priority seems to be that the chopping block for political heads should be AVOIDED by focusing primarily on (counteracting or covering up) consequences instead of (tackling real or unmasking false) causes.
Hence Segers' concise characterization of the degenerated Dutch political culture.
"Speaking is silver, but Silence is golden." Where instead of 'Conceal' it could also have been 'Avoid'.
That's how it is indeed...
institutionalized incompetence...
That comment is still too good for reality.
I don't want to grumble because that's not good.
I don't know what I'm doing right anymore.
https://www.ninefornews.nl/hydroxychloroquine-kostte-volgens-de-media-honderden-nederlanders-het-leven-nu-is-de-studie-teruggetrokken/
Only now, while no one is paying attention, is that worthless research being withdrawn.
Plus if HCQ works, then an authorisation on the condition for an experimental vaccine is not permitted. In other words, a manipulated study was deliberately abused to inject experimental rubbish en masse. The fact that no research is needed into this is because it is becoming increasingly clear that those experimental syringes did not work. Because ppk is becoming increasingly clear that those experimental unknown injections do have some side effects.
A little more than frikandellen, so to speak.
And poop, now I'm grumbling again.
Unfortunately, the willingness to find the truth among our politicians is hard to find. Unfortunately, this applies not only to the excess mortality file, but also, for example, to the war in Ukraine.
At the moment I am reading Naomi Wolf's book; The pfizer Papers. This is about an analysis of the nottos made by Pfizer itself during the development and rollout of the Pfizer vaccine. Pfizer assumed that these nottos would remain secret for 70 years, but this was stopped by an American judge. These data were not recorded by conspiracy theorists but by Pfizer's scientists themselves. It shows that Pfizer already knew in December 2020 that the vaccine did not help against covid and that there would be a high vaccine mortality. This was of course kept secret in order to obtain approval. All researchers don't have to do much research anymore, it's all in the Pfizer papers, a book is freely available and can be purchased by anyone. The content is indisputable, and the crime is clearly demonstrable.
https://virusvaria.nl/naomi-wolf-pfizer-papers-en-jessica-rose-expert-report/
The drug authorisation authorities – FDA, EMA and others – have issued and renewed the provisional approval on the basis of, among other things, these Pfizer trial data. So they knew in advance that the corona vaccines would cause serious side effects and deaths. Still, they have advised the society-wide vaccine rollout, even for children.
How should you characterize this? Corruption? Murder? Or do they get away with: "We should perhaps have informed the population a little better, but the advantages outweigh the disadvantages"? (Which, by the way, cannot be proven either.)
There is far too much conflict of interest between the authorization agencies and Big Pharma. This way they can always pass on the responsibility to someone else.
In any case, the Pfizer papers show that the occurrence of excess mortality as a result of vaccination could be predicted. The empiricism shows – thanks to Anton and Herman, among others – that this excess mortality has actually occurred. This combination of facts is much stronger as evidence than the tinkering of the RIVM and NIVEL.
Democide cover-up. Word of the year?
I understand that this ancien regime does not want it. History catches up with them. But unfortunately we don't.
Just like with Jimmy Savile.
(a) They have to get their booster, just because it works (for the Darwin Award);
(b) mRNa bereikt de hersenen. Uit welk zwakzinnigen instituut hebben ze Karremans gehaald?!?
Vaccins zijn een geloof, en wij leven in de Pharma-middeleeuwen. Met gelovigen valt over hun geloof niet zinnig te praten.
It would have been appropriate if Karremans had said at the start of the debate: "there are no good guys and no bad guys in the cabinet, VWS and health care".
Unbelievable this. Always distracting from the core. But it is also a pity that the core is not repeated over and over again. More people are simply dying than would normally be expected. How is that possible? And why do we see this excess mortality pattern in the countries where there is a lot of vaccination, but not in countries in Eastern Europe or Africa. We should want to know how this is possible? It's about our loved ones.
Hi. Thank you for writing this article.
I do my best to filter out the forest of information to see what is true and/or what I want to believe.
I always find these kinds of sentences in an article difficult: "I copy-pasted a text here that I posted on LinkedIn at the risk of my life."
I then tend to believe the content of the article less, because I label these kinds of sentences as 'drama' or 'exaggerated'. I don't want to trivialize it, just indicate how I experience it. Is such a clause true, because it is very serious and how do you notice and experience that danger?
Greeting.
What makes me very sad again is the powerlessness I see in this debate. That is the same with the debate about Corona measures that I went to at the time in The Hague. The inability to make it up to 18 million people actually bothers me the most. If you are powerless and have not studied it properly, then you should not participate in the debate and leave it to other people. But in my response I am also a little disappointed in your dear and certainly brilliant Maurice, because I think that you are also going around in loops and that does not complete the story. I have already emailed you and asked you to go for a beer and complete the story by comparing experiences and insights. I would still like that because I think I can take you a number of thinking steps further to complete your work and you are still missing a few pieces of the puzzle. I'm trying to peel it back here and still invite you to have a chat. And it may sound like “attack”, but it certainly isn't. I have benefited greatly from your research and publications to further complete my studies. And I also want to introduce mine to yours, because I already know it will be interesting for you. So here goes.
As a source and contact research specialist, I came behind the scenes of the GGD and kept track of all developments from all angles. It is completely incorrect that vaccinations have helped. It only helped a very small group of people to mirror the immune response in the blood, so that someone could not get Corona for a while. However, it soon became apparent that this decreased and a booster had to be recommended again. And I have now had this confirmed by 3 internists.
It cost a lot of money for nothing. I can still see Hugo saying to a journalist at the end of a press conference “but we are still developing a vaccine…”; like it was the holy grail. And that comment pushed the two Twente doctors behind the wall, who early on suggested that you could also follow the path of resilience. The impotence was that the Ministry was back in the newspaper that same day with the announcement that the 1.5 meters also applied to doctors and medical specialists, but as usual did not address the valuable content and the social discussion that they proposed and the Covid Doctors collective as well, did not materialize in the Netherlands and is now not being conducted.
The only correct face of Corona started with the article by Eelco van Anken, a cell biologist, who indicated that you could defeat Corona if, like with Polio, you find the weaker brothers and administer them to people to make them resilient. I then sent you an email, dear Maurice, in which I pointed out that connection and told you that I had found those weaker brothers. Everything was based on the drop that fell within 1.5 meters. That drop contained a high virus load and a high virus load was fatal to people at the start. The low virus load was due to your finding of the aerosol spread, for which I have my respect. If a droplet breaks up, you have a cloud of small particles that float through supermarkets or into people's homes. Together these have the same virus load as a droplet. However, a certain part is inhaled by people and that is a light virus load that ultimately defeated Corona on those weak brothers that did not make people sick but did increase resilience. But that's where the LP stays in my opinion. Because a lot of drops together is sputum or spit and this did indeed have a very high virus load that was fatal to people, such as the nurse who got it behind the face mask.
There is a contradiction there. And you are just as polarized as the other side in insisting on being right, that the nuance does not make sense. That nuance is that the 1.5 meters and less cuddling has also prevented that high dose of virus load with kissing and who knows, maybe it would have made sense if you weigh that nuance. Because logically I think so. But the field lab “dancing with Janssen” has also led to infections in which people contracted Long Covid. And who knows, there may be a connection between vaccination and a Corona infection that acted as an overdose for people's neurology, which means there is a connection with Long Covid, or is this perhaps Long Covid?
Thank you for publishing the research to support the aerosols as a microvaccine, because it was true. But here too, a nuance can be seen in the Field Labs that did indeed lead to Corona infections and therefore a certain high virus load was required. In certain cases, the aerosols could also cause an overdose, exceeding the line from low virus load to high virus load. What circumstances played a role is to review all relevant news items before they disappear into the background of the internet due to aging. And I would like to do that with you, collaborate and understand it.
The Christmas lockdown was caused by the introduction of the 5-day test at the GGD. People who had to remain in quarantine for 10 days were initially offered a test for the first time on day 5. The infections rose from 2,500 to 10,000 3 days later and I had instructed 400 agents and saw the causal link that the RIVM did not see in the newspaper. They were afraid of the arrival of the new variant. And this was only visible at the end of January in a higher contagiousness than 1.5 meters where a distance of 3 meters was kept and people contracted Corona. Basic virology is that a virus becomes more contagious with each mutation, not more deadly. So it was more contagious than was visible in the files, but not more deadly than the already increasing resilience of humans, I think. And I still have PTSD from seeing it and not having anywhere to put it to save Christmas...
Another thing that keeps me awake is that I hear my colleague say on my earpiece: "There goes the vaccination strategy, because double-vaccinated people come in with a Corona infection and we see that they infect other people on the files, because it was a source AND contact research. And still pressure and coercion continued with the old story, which we saw was no longer correct, up to the introduction of the QR code and I could not get a hamburger at the mac because I had declared my solidarity with my neighbor who was in the care worked and he didn't want it. From day 1 it sounded on my ear and I knew it and she did. And we shot it into the RIVM database because we had to register that data in a separate form, they could also have known and adjusted it and that didn't happen. But I was able to forgive it, because no one could have done this differently or carried it as a human being.
And I was able to find that forgiveness in cognitive dissonance that Mrs Schippers van de Mer came to Welsmerz for, in the wrong camp, because she should have been at the OMT. She wrote a fantastic paper about her advice on decision making in times of cognitive dissonance. I have emailed the parliamentary inquiry committee that the starting point of a fourth OVV report begins there. And the door does not open, because politics is being played and those people are also standing on the hind legs of their ego, unwilling to accept and speak to those who think differently and share facts.
But it is precisely in that cognitive dissonance that forgiveness also lies. Because this was about human vulnerability and strengthening it. 18 million people have a vulnerability. And Rutte was exposed inside in The Hague for his psychopathy by a TBS lawyer. I know that the coping of those people has been on tiptoes and that was Rutte's “now I have more power, more power” when he went into overdrive. The then Minister of Health, Welfare and Sport could not bear the news that English and American interrogations showed that the RIVM had received the message there that a man-made virus was circulating and the same had probably arrived here. Sometimes you need people who are a bit bad at empathy to pull a country through a phase and maybe then lying was also a way to make a country function. Admitting this is only possible if the side you are on also develops more empathy to understand those vulnerabilities and perhaps your own as well. Because I am a huge fan of what you have done to help me complete the story, but I do think that you can also be very stubborn and you need to add nuance to really complete your work.
You will only get a complete picture of excess mortality if you read through the entire reporting again. I was on the vaccination line for another 3 weeks. Wanted to get that side of the story too. And what did I get on the phone? Cognitively dissonant Dutch people, because that's what you get from isolation. A friend is seeing a psychologist because she has not been able to get out of isolation herself, and that is after 2 years. I also see it in my work as a hotel night receptionist how people are still in their shell and empathy is low because they are turned inward. I am also still recovering, single son of a terminal mother in Corona time. I would like to explain to you what that has done to me and how I now recover and help other people recover.
So I am also excluded from my story. But it is precisely those details with yours and a new look back that can provide clarity. I really want that and it can also take you further, dear man.
Proof of the pudding of the aerosols and the lethality or severity of Corona in the beginning were 6 Chinese who checked into a hotel two weeks before the lifting of zero Covid in China. After breathing the indoor air, 300 able-bodied people from Europe went to breakfast without 1.5 meters and were still in quarantine. My young colleague was terrified of the indoctrination of mantras because one of the Chinese had arrived at the reception wearing a face mask and I had to reassure her with the weaker brothers story. But when 2 Chinese wanted to have their laundry picked up and called me at the reception, I could do what I did at the GGD and that was listen to symptoms. And it turned out, those Chinese were just as sick as the people in the second wave of OMIKRON where the 300 able-bodied people walked to breakfast. I may be wrong, but I think the second wave in the Netherlands of the second variant was the most fatal in the Netherlands. But that line can be reconstructed to be sure.
Just call me or just cam. I have taken an interesting route and would also like to refresh it. Just like when I sent you a message about those weaker brothers, you responded very briefly "that could be possible" and it gave you the articles about the aerosols as a microvaccine. I think you remember that email, that was me. And now I add cognitive dissonance and human vulnerability, which I placed in a storyline and together we can write the final report and the still missing OVV report and present them to the Corona Committee. Because that was my proposal and the shutters are closing. And it is my proposal to apologize in the Netherlands and, if necessary, I am willing to do so.
Because I think there has to be a point somewhere. And that the Great Confusion (cognitive dissonance) will be lifted that started with the 2020 Battle for toilet paper at Albert Heijn and is still not completely over. And you also see that in that debate, it is powerlessness, and I also see it in your statement, that is powerlessness and I notice it in my colleague and when I go to the psychologist to get back in touch with others and I am very honestly reflective, I also notice it in myself.
And I want to write a fourth OVV report about that and that starts with chatting with you and proposing to get started.
I have a lot of respect for your work and figuring it out. You helped me a lot. My help in return was to draw your attention to the weaker brothers who have achieved resilience. I already know that there needs to be a nuance and that cognitive dissonance of 18 million people and our government is that common thread and that then the vulnerability of people becomes visible, such as the whole manipulation and so on. I also know that we will only achieve resilience if that fourth OVV report is published and I would like to write it with you. And that is why I am very critical to make it clear to you that absolute clarity does not exist, we all think we have it ourselves and someone else does not, but I say that I also suffered from that cognitive dissonance and no one has escaped it, including you. And that is my help to you to point out that I want to give you some nuance and a world of missing pieces will open up.
Just email me if I have been able to help you a little with becoming aware of a clear you to an even clearer you. And I dare say that my development on that path is still ongoing.
You and I can write that fourth report. And we can involve many people in this and let them tell their stories. I know it will be a report and then an exhibition where everyone can tell their ineractive story and save it for posterity. And I know that it is necessary to help many people and, especially, not to let today's victims, those of Long Covid, be forgotten. They still need to be helped forward and for this it is important that you and I drop ego and views for a moment and start chatting. Email me and I will send you my telephone number and I am sure I will get you excited and the Netherlands needs that work.
Greetings Alex
Your best fan is your best critic
Thanks Maurice
Did you miss this? There was a 2-minute debate on excess mortality in the 2nd chamber on March 27.
But that consisted, if I saw it correctly, only of 2 motions. Both of these have been discouraged by the stupid errand boy State Secretary Karremans (VVD)
1. Van De Korte (NSC) On how to define excess mortality (not by taking the past 5 years, so that it is automatically obscured; but NSC does not bring that conveniently, much too cold. She needs to be more mediagenic about it.
2. From PVV member Thiadens. Specifically about excess mortality in women aged 40 – 50 years of 30%. Also very clumsily brought. He should have just stuck to the CBS figures from the table and made an impassioned speech. Instead of basing himself on a website that he himself qualifies as unscientific (Virusvaria) and a weak emotionless story. How stupid can you be. Learn from Geert Wilders how to put something like this on the agenda.
It is really even more shocking than the earlier debate. The actions of Judith Tielen (VVD) and Karremans are of an alarming level, which would not be out of place in North Korea: we must blindly trust the "scientific" institutions.
See:
https://www.tweedekamer.nl/debat_en_vergadering/plenaire_vergaderingen/details/activiteit?id=2025A01752
and
https://debatdirect.tweedekamer.nl/2025-03-27/zorg-gezondheid/plenaire-zaal/tweeminutendebat-oversterfte-cd-20-2-19-00/video
It is obvious that both motions will be rejected next Tuesday.
See today's article. I saw two motions by the way, not three...?
And where did he qualify it as 'unscientific'? Of course, I could have missed that with my bias.
Thiadens was already apologizing in advance that it was "not scientific". That was about the base line. But without a baseline, there was also 20 to 25% excess mortality left. So he said. Luitster back.
He just brought this very stupidly.
And so does De Korte, for that matter.
What a shooter.
Yes, but
a) Verwaart's baseline was therefore 'non-scientific', a questionable assumption.
b) In the first article it was also mentioned that with other (read 'scientific') baselines the signal was also very disturbing.
c) in the second article (perhaps I should have drawn Thiadens' attention to this) CBS forecasts were used. So indeed 'scientific'.
But indeed, clumsy, amateurish, ignorant and uninterested. A song that had to be finished. Even the opponents looked like extras.
I also do not dispute the scientific nature of your publications (and those of Herman and Maurice) at all. That is usually done very thoroughly. Just unfortunately not peer-reviewed.
But my criticism is directed at Thiadens. He should have understood that he should have just used the CBS models and data. Then there was no arguing with it. The fact that he found out about this anomaly through Virus Varia is not smart to report. Because you know in advance how it will be dealt with.
A matter of political, tactical-strategic insight......
To defeat your opponents without violence, you have to use their own resources as much as possible. Only if you have all the power can you use your own resources; that's what Trump is doing now.