PEC: Bruno Bruins and Marion Koopmans

by Anton Theunissen | 31 mei 2026, 10:05

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  1. Wim dR

    “A trap to be closed later with better evidence….”
    Well.
    Then the whole house of cards will collapse and so many lies and manipulations will surface, that won't happen.
    At most, something that will be shown to the public with a lot of fanfare and will cost the head of someone they can miss/want to cut or who has otherwise been sidelined for a long time.
    Little confidence in this play.

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  2. j from ruth

    with unwilling dogs it is evil to catch hares...

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  3. Pyotr

    Indeed, the right questions should not be asked.
    Because it's actually very simple.
    We all unfairly had to be vaccinated because herd immunity would not work because the virus kept changing. But 'we' were injected en masse in 2021 with a shot based on the Wuhan virus 2019/2020. While in 2021, after the Wuhan, we already had some new, milder viruses. Even everyone who had been infected a year earlier would have received much broader and longer protection than what you can ever achieve with a 'crippled' and old 'vaccine'. Even with the Mexican flu, it was said that most people born before 1956 had little to fear from the flu because a similar virus was circulating in the Netherlands at the time. So naturally acquired immunity from corona variants will most likely provide better protection fifty years later than the current 'old' incomplete injections.
    Another fallacy for getting vaccinated was: 'You can then visit your grandmother'. But being vaccinated does not mean that you cannot infect others. In fact, proclaiming this false sense of safety everywhere caused many people to take more risks, which was made easier because vaccinated people had more opportunity to infect others due to their QR code proof.

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  4. Cor De Vries

    NCTV advice can also be found in published documents. Already in documents at Catshuis consultation March 29, 2020.

    See below, scroll down to documents March 29, 2020, click on NCTV presentation.

    https://share.google/nEfrskhAci9hLGWgw

    I wonder whether Aalbersberg will also downplay this in his interrogation.

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    1. WimdR

      Cor,
      It may be that I am not looking properly, but an NCTV presentation cannot be found there (anymore).

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      1. Cor De Vries

        It (still) works normally for me. Can be found under Catshuisstuks from March 29, 2020.

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        1. WimdR

          Found. Thanks.

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  5. Cor De Vries

    Suspect that Fouchier's memory is better than Koopmans'

    He talks in Tegenlicht about the disclosure of hereditary material 2-3 weeks after Sinterklaas. This would mean that it was already known in 2019. Found an official announcement via Australian Holmes on January 10. But I think Fouchier was already aware of it before that.

    Koopmans didn't know anything at the time?
    Of course it's possible that she was off for a few weeks. However, she was co-author of the Dorsten Corman PCR paper (which was in the works as of January 13th and was formally published on the 23rd, I believe).

    Furthermore, it is also remarkable from Tegenlicht documentary that Koopmans attributes the difference between the locally persistent SarsCov1 and the pandemic SarsCov2 (which the PCR test had to distinguish among other things) to the more superficial SarsCov2, which affects the upper airways, instead of the SarsCov1 that works deeper in the lungs. Sounds plausible.

    The initial failure to recognize the upper airway phenomenon of the SarsCov2 is the reason, I think, that it was initially caused by e.g. van Dissel it was not considered serious. (Later research in (NJEM) also indicated that both viruses exhibited the same airborne behavior/potency, half-lives, etc.).

    It is remarkable that Fouchier had fabricated precisely this effect (targeting the upper respiratory tract) with his infamous bioweapon bird flu (gain of function of H5N1) virus. He had created the airborn for mammals. His ferrets transmitted it via aerosols.
    (By the way, the same research was also done in the US).

    The association with a lab (Koopmans even seems to speak about several labs in interrogation, also think of Embarek's suggestion about the relocated Huwan CDC lab as a source, very close to the wet market) would therefore be obvious in Koopmans' mind given Fouchier's gain of function research.

    Well, it rattles quite a bit.

    P.S. I believe that the 'committing suicide' Chinese also had a patent pending on a vaccine against Covid. (Still need to check this)

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    1. Cor De Vries

      Nice analytical article about how Fouchier is at least not clear in his communication.
      It seems that using fear and then downplaying it (and blaming the media. Without taking the responsibility to correct them in case of misunderstandings) is a proven method in virology to gain attention/money.

      With the ultimate: we don't know when, but it is certain that it will come (that new pandemic).

      https://www.psandman.com/articles/Fouchier.htm

      There was more jumping in China?

      https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/do-wuhan-institute-of-virology-scientists-often-fall-from-the-buildings-roof/

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  6. Yorianne

    Nothing positive can be expected from this kind of charade.

    Just read this extremely interesting piece: https://substack.com/home/post/p-199784152
    We have been ruled by NCTV since 2020 and it is undoubtedly in the service of a cabal that lurks in the shadows.

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      Nice piece, there are good things in it. I do miss references and the link to the cabal that you mention.

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      1. Yorianne

        At the top somewhere it says "documented", which is a link to a piece from Bomen & Bos Substack from January 21, 2023 in response to WOB documents (Influencing the behavior of citizens on a large scale). That is the only link and unfortunately responding is only possible for subscribed readers.

        And unfortunately, I'm not talking about “the” but “a” cabal. I wish he would really step out of the shadows.

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        1. Alison

          I was already shocked by the elitist fascism that defined our lives for so long, but this video once again managed to shock me deeper. Thanks for the link.

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  7. Elisabeth

    A friend called me especially from her holiday address to tell me that the corona survey had started. Thinking that I would happily turn on the television to follow the case closely... finally satisfaction... or something like that. While after her well-intentioned phone call I mainly felt that the information gap was completely impossible to bridge. Where do I start to explain what is wrong with that survey? I personally can't watch it without getting way too despondent. Yes, she said, "your great friend Maurice is also there." Just the name 'your great friend' bothers me. She thinks Maurice is 'a conspiracy theorist'. I report back that in my opinion Maurice is an exceptionally nuanced, sincere and loving person. But yes... D66 and the NRC have left deep marks over the years.
    But there is hope. Another friend read a 'conspiracy' story on the train at the beginning of the Covid period and everything fell into place differently because of that one story. When she got off the train again she was a 'wappie'. I call it 'wappie' because that name most easily indicates which information flow someone recognizes themselves in.

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    1. WimdR

      Elizabeth,
      I have stopped convincing people that there is other information, a different reality than that of the MSM... It made me despondent and sometimes angry because of the condescending reactions such as "you are certainly a Putin lover too" etc.
      Let them go, the believers. Maybe, just maybe, there will come a time when they will realize what is really going on.

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  8. Peter Beks

    A very good observation, Pjotr. Supposedly vaccinated people will show different behavior. They are “safe from others,” and they have been told so. While the EMA (and Pfizer), among others, knew that the syringes were not intended for this, their 'endpoint' was to reduce the risk of serious illness. Well, well.

    Are we going to hear anything about this in the survey?

    What I find very unfortunate is that what David Martin said during his presentations in Brussels, among others, receives little attention. The patents on dangerous pathogens, the associated “solutions”, the money flows…”unless we are having this discussion, we are having the wrong discussion”. So don't waste energy on aerosols, face masks and lockdowns. Follow the money. We were told in 2015, listen to Martin.

    I'm curious how those poor pangolins are doing... they deserve an apology. Including the bats.

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      1. Godfather

        Oh yes! No, they also get an award. Nice idea for certain “respondents”: they will receive The Pangolin Award 2020. Or The Racoon Award. People, people anyway.

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    1. Cees Mul

      That's quite essential, yes. If the 'vaccinations' do not prevent infection, at least not 100%, then the CTB (Corona Access Certificate) is abject (of course it is anyway). The joke is that people already knew that back then. But because of cognitive dissonance, people like the genius De Jonge didn't make that connection.

      By the way, I am of the opinion that the argument of becoming less ill was only used when it turned out that the 'vaccines' did not prevent transmission. Call me old fashioned, but I assumed that a vaccine is intended to prevent people from contracting a specific infection. If vaccines do not stop transmission but reduce symptoms, it is not a vaccine but a medicine.

      De Grote Denker Hugo vertelde ons dat we ons uit de ‘pandemie’ zouden vaccineren. Dit is ook weer de grootst mogelijk flauwekul maar half Nederland hing aan zijn lippen en liet zich aanpraten dat de ongevaccineerden de schuld waren dat er helaas toch weer een lockdown moest komen. Een vaccin dat besmetting niet voorkomt. Dat is dus gewoon een vaccin dat niet werkt. Is er enig bewijs dat mensen minder ziek werden van de ziekte die we Covid-19 werd genoemd? Of was het een drogreden om mensen te bewegen alsnog hun 37ste booster te halen?

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      1. c

        Dear Cees, no matter how well-intentioned, unfortunately there are many misinformation questions and suggestions about vaccines and vaccinations in your response. I also saw something on Maurice's site about hyperventilation and low saturation values ​​(it is even higher...) which is not correct. Marion K. also started in her defense about the fact that many people (in her view, almost everyone except herself) were proclaiming nonsense and with this kind of thinking, people like Marion and Maarten have sticks to hit with, while there are many critical experts.

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        1. Anton Theunissen

          Can you name something, c? I like to learn from it.

          I think the expectations of what a vaccine should be (and what it once was) are quite a point for discussion. The evidence that people become less ill from Covid is indeed shaky, especially if we look at the net in the longer term. What thoughts do you mean?

          That of the 37th booster – that is of course not correct 😉

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          1. Cees Mul

            That 37th booster was obviously a joke. Although…. what is not yet may come. I don't quite understand C's response either. I think I'm using pure logic.
            Ending a pandemic through a vaccination campaign is nonsense. Never happened before either. Only in Hollywood movies. The script of the film 'Contagion' has been almost completely followed. If you wanted to achieve that, it would only work with a vaccine that prevents infections. So the assumption in the beginning was that the 'vaccines' would prevent infection. It was sold by Rutte & Co. If it then turns out that the 'vaccines' do not or hardly prevent infection, you would logically have to adjust the approach. Mass vaccination does not eradicate the virus, nor does it squash the virus (Rutte). In any case, it is impossible to completely eliminate something like this. The Chinese tried and it didn't work there either. You could call it disinformation or propaganda.

            I'm curious where you see that disinformation in my response, c:-). The bottom line is that there is no scientific basis whatsoever for injecting people en masse with a product that was put together in record time and that was approved with a frenetic emergency regulation. And only because there were no other treatment methods. There were, of course, but they were deliberately ridiculed (horse dewormer).

            Back to the question: is it strange to assume that vaccinations are given to prevent infections?

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            1. Willem

              Yes, that's strange. You cannot prevent a disease (through a vaccine) if the vector that is said to be the cause of the disease (ie a virus) has never been proven/does not exist.

              Read or see the viral delusion, a 5-part docuseries available via: https://theviraldelusion.substack.com/p/the-viral-delusion-episode-one-behind

              the series follows my thoughts on the existence or otherwise of viruses. A slow awakening process... If you want to start the series blank (without prejudice), I recommend part 5 (about the history of the origins of HIV->AIDS), that episode is perhaps less 'heated' than the origins of Sarscov2->covid (in which people have invested heavily, even above the line [we remain critical], and let themselves/the reader believe that viruses exist.)

              The train of thought is as follows.
              1. Viruses exist and HIV causes AIDS (the Fauci doctrine)
              2. Viruses exist, but HIV does not cause AIDS (the Peter Duesberg doctrine)
              3. Viruses do not exist, therefore HIV does not exist, and therefore cannot cause AIDS (Stefan Lanka doctrine)

              The problem - but maybe I'm talking too much about myself now - is different: my problem is that I believed in Ad 1 for a long time (it was in the textbooks, textbooks are never wrong, I was tested on it, thinking otherwise was impossible), when I finally took a moment for myself and thought: 'It's strange that risk factors for HIV adhere so much to national borders: heterosexuality in Africa, homosexuality in the US, etc.' I leaned towards Ad 2 (AIDS is caused due to environmental factors such as poverty/poor living conditions, which leads to immune suppression or risky behavior such as drug use (which leads to immune suppression), not due to HIV, but HIV does exist (it is a harmless virus). Ad 3 also took me a while, but my final judgment is still ad 3 (viruses, I don't know whether they exist - just like I don't know whether aliens exist - but they have never been proven!)

              The problem why ad 3 is so difficult to accept is because it concerns a taboo idea, 'what, you don't believe in viruses???!' after which you are supposed to shrug your shoulders laughing and think: 'those conspiracy theorists always go too far in their ideas. Soon they will tell me that we have never been to the moon or that the earth is flat! Hahaha.'
              But you just have to be brave, bite through that cognitive dissonance, so to speak, and really think about viruses, then you will automatically arrive at ad 3 (even without seeing the viral delusion).

              Finally..

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            2. c

              Traditional vaccines against pathogens contain some pathogen and the idea is that the immune system produces antibodies so that it recognizes this pathogen during the next encounter, so that people do not or hardly become ill. This is how I was taught during my studies in healthcare and during the initial phase of the hepatitis B injections in the early 1980s. No matter how harmful some things are and how widely opinions differ, the corona shots are indeed not vaccines. Of course all opinions are welcome, but I try to avoid fact-free opinions. I apologize if I seem too scared, but I never want to be on strange lists again, or actually I promised my family that.

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              1. c

                To clarify: a high injection rate was (was) the intention. And Hugo knew very well what he was doing. It was never about transmission and the manufacturers never said so. This is what I mean, among other things, by disinformation, everyone was and continues to make off with terms such as transmission... no matter how logical something sometimes sounds, leave this to experts who do or have done independent research. By the way, Maarten Keulemans had corona again last summer, as he mentioned somewhere, I know more and apparently they are still testing... Independent scientific research is more needed than ever, but it seems to no longer exist.

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          1. c

            It is not about hyperventilation due to fear(s) but about research with volunteers and sleep apnea. 1 = none, but as a child of an extremely anxious parent with hyperventilation almost daily, we had a lot of measuring instruments at home after many admissions to the hospital because my parent was afraid of oxygen deficiency and heart attacks. Never found an oxygen deficiency... etc. Take it from me that I have read many studies about it. By the way, my parent died due to the corona measures without having had COVID and no injections, but became malnourished because my parent could not tolerate a face mask due to... a lifetime of hyperventilation and was therefore refused entry to shops. The stores where my parent, after years of struggling with himself, finally dared to go alone a few years before 2020, how proud we were all... my parent enjoyed the regained freedom and immediately stopped asking for help... When we realized that the food was too little and very one-sided, the damage had already been done at that (older) age, etc. etc. I cannot listen to those "interrogations" at the PEC. My other parent died BECAUSE of a side effect stated in the package leaflet for Pfizer's corona shots... To stay informed, I read everything here at virusvaria. I also watch and listen to new media. Thanks for reading and allowing me to share my stories here.

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  9. Elisabeth

    Dear Willem, I hear more and more often that viruses have never been able to isolate and demonstrate. But what is flu and how can people infect each other with… yes… with what? Is it a matter of definition? I find the non-existence of viruses an interesting idea, but I do not understand how something like influenza fits into this picture.

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