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  1. Hans

    And then today the comments in the MSM regarding excess mortality in the Netherlands: "Nothing wrong" !!!!!.
    Waaaaaat ???????

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  2. Djaja Ottenhof

    On 8 June, based on the figures in the UK, you gave an estimate of 700 extra deaths from the vaccine among Dutch 50-year-olds. But when I look at the flat CBS mortality figures, I don't see it:

    2017 – 5.526
    2018 – 5.337
    2019 – 5.216
    2020 – 5.572
    2021 – 5.401

    Week 1 to week 21 (with 2022 added):
    2017 – 2.303
    2018 – 2.160
    2019 – 2.133
    2020 – 2.285
    2021 – 2.137
    2022 – 2.178

    If it's really 700, then we should see that in the raw data, right?

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    1. Anton

      Yes, once, that's curious. (Do you have a link to that age distribution?)
      Covid has also meant little in 2020, it seems. Based on those figures, you would say that mortality is quite normal, also in 2021. I can't reconcile it well with the image at Euromomo, for example, although I don't know exactly how to make an absolute estimate of it. Maybe you? Or someone else? (too bad the categories don't exactly match of course). But if you just look at 15-44, there really has to be a higher number. And then a quarter of that 45+ is added...
      Mortality in the Netherlands 15-44 and 45-64 years according to Euromomo

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      1. Djaja Ottenhof

        Here I had the xls with data from: https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/maatwerk/2022/23/overledenen-per-week-provincie-en-gemeente-week-22-2022

        As far as corona mortality is concerned, the point is of course that it is not about large numbers. The corona dashboard states that 1% of all corona mortality is in the 50-minus group. If I add up the figures on Nice, there are slightly more: about 320 (outcome death after admission to ICU or nursing ward).

        At Euromomo you can download the raw figures for the 29 countries they follow from 2018. That gives (for 15-44):

        2018 – 79.300
        2019 – 77.139
        2020 – 80.430
        2021 – 81.422

        Week 1 to 24

        2018 – 37.164
        2019 – 35.909
        2020 – 36.677
        2021 – 36.530
        2022 – 36.300

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      2. Anton

        Yes, in 2020 it already became clear that there was no reason to vaccinate 50-min. Combating contagiousness was never investigated and implausible, but vaccination was necessary. And then that very unfavorable mortality balance: much more red than green... I'm definitely going to look at that 700 again. Have you looked at how much Euromomo cumulatively comes out at 15-44 for example?

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