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  1. Alison

    They once conducted a study in Africa on the effect of the childhood vaccination package on infant mortality. Pre-covid, in other words.

    Although the vaccinated children died less often from the specific diseases against which they had been vaccinated, their mortality rate was higher overall.
    What was the result? The vaccinated children were more likely to die from those diseases from which their unvaccinated companions simply recovered.

    Conclusion: the children's injection package caused a net increase in deaths by disrupting the immune system.
    In net terms, the package causes more mortality than it prevents.

    N.B. The groups had been corrected and the name and surname of the exact study can be found via Children's Health Defense (fantastic website).

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      I know this from Christine Stabell-Benn, but that was about a specific new childhood vaccine in Africa. I didn't think that had anything to do with seasonal dependency, which is what this article is about. In any case, it is in line with what Vandenbossche warned against.

      We simply don't do similar research. No one knows whether vaccinated people are better off than unvaccinated people, even with vaccines that were introduced in a different time, under different circumstances (hygiene, nutrition). Everything is hung on "Yes, but polio". Billions may be wasted.

      Then the philosophical question arises: How bad is it if people feel that they are well cared for and kept safe, even if it means they live shorter lives?
      (In other words: do bluepillers actually have it worse than the redpillers? Don't the redpillers choose discomfort, misery, war? Is that really what makes life worth living...?)

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      1. Alison

        I chimed in with "faltering immune systems" in the title 🙂
        However, I find the hypothesis that vaccines turn the immune system upside down – with all the consequences that entails, credible.
        The crucial research, as far as I'm concerned, has been done: (1) do the injection packages reduce the overall mortality rates (no); (2) are there all kinds of nasty side effects due to vaccinations, which hardly or not occur in uninjected people (yes, go and look for autism in the Amish, for example; or much higher percentage of ear infections> tubes).
        Well, if you want to look for research, you can find it. Sorry, I didn't keep a links database.
        My personal conclusion from extensive research at the time regarding my children is clear: the risk of trouble is less without than with.

        May I translate your question above ('how bad if well cared for, etc.), to: How bad is it that we have been domesticated by larger interests?
        I personally think it's very bad. I see us (and myself) as addicted to all kinds of empty comforts, which don't really give us meaning in our lives. I do see our (distant?) future in VR pods.

        As far as the inconvenience of the redpillers is concerned: without 'friction', there is no life. As far as the comfort of the bluepillers is concerned: yes please, by the campfire, after a day of intense life.
        Furthermore, I think it is important to separate bluepill/redpill from political affiliation. Now the alt-right is 'awake' and the alt-left is 'woke'. I don't feel like that false dichotomy. But, I'm guessing, neither do 🙂 you

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  2. elgoog

    Thank you Anton, for this very clear overview and explanation. Of course, only human intervention can be the cause of unexplained deaths. Man is now at war with his own science that is being blackmailed by big money. Turns out there are many more bad and especially stupid people on this planet. Perhaps nature will intervene in this way to reduce overpopulation. Nature is so much smarter than we are, silly stupid, often sick creatures. It may well be the case that 80% of people want to do better, but it is abundantly clear that we cannot. We allow it en masse to be tortured by big money. And look with admiration at the 1% rich who have it all figured out, while they express their butt in our eye.
    I'm starting to "believe" more and more that we just get what we deserve.

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  3. de Wit

    The increase in the number of fatal deaths is not only due to the ageing population. Taking into account the ageing of the population and population growth, the number of deaths fell until 1998, especially among women. Since then, it has gradually increased and even doubled since 2010, from 17.5 per 100 thousand inhabitants in 2010 to 35.2 per 100 thousand inhabitants in 2022.
    Vooral 90+ en ouderen met psycho geriatrische aandoening
    Van alle mensen die in 2022 door een val overleden, had de helft toegang tot Wlz-zorg vanwege een psychogeriatrische aandoening. In 2015 was dat nog een derde.
    https://opendata.cbs.nl/statline/#/CBS/nl/dataset/7052_95/table?dl=2BFAC
    https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/nieuws/2019/49/dagelijks-13-doden-door-een-val
    https://langerthuisinhuis.nl/6-medicijnen-die-het-risico-op-vallen-vergroten/

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  4. Steven

    It is clear that RIVM has adjusted the bandwidth upwards. But there must come a time in the future when mortality drops again to a level we know from before 2020, and may drop even further because of the large group of people who are now apparently dying earlier. Will the RIVM then adjust the bandwidth downwards again? If not, we'll see fairly extreme under-mortality by then.

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    1. LN

      That, and RIVM will also miss flu and other infectious diseases (which they say they specifically monitor): will remain within the bandwidth. Heck, if they had done this baseline calculation in 2020, only the 1st wave would have exceeded the bandwidth.

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  5. Egied Hannen

    How is it possible that at some points in the graphs the corona mortality is higher than the overall (all cause mortality I assume) mortality?

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    1. Anton Theunissen

      The All Cause Mortality is much higher. The graphs only show the excess mortality, i.e. the part that is above the expectation. Corona mortality is often higher than excess mortality because deaths have been attributed to corona who would have died without corona. They therefore do not contribute to the excess mortality.

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