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by Anton Theunissen | 29 Oct 2024, 20:10

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A financial man once explained the following to me: "If you go to a notary in Belgium and you want something with a second or third house in the Ardennes, you shouldn't be surprised if he asks: 'left drawer or right drawer?'" The right drawer is strictly in accordance with the rules of the law, the left drawer offers a little more leeway, a corner can be cut, something can be skipped that is never checked anyway, it goes faster, uses a goat path that has not been done yet, a conversation with the mayor also helps etc. etc. In the end, that may very well be debatable – but, if no one publicizes it, there is actually no chance that anyone will discover it at all. And of course: with mutual benefit for the notary and the homeowner. No rooster goes to crows. Everyone happy.

You won't experience that so easily in the Netherlands. Perhaps a parallel can be drawn with Bible views, which have always been dealt with differently in the south than above the rivers where they were a bit more upright in doctrine.

A man goes to the doctor

We are going to play with the caricature outlined above of how the Belgians deal with their regulations, including the implementing authorities. What will happen to compulsory vaccinations that people don't really want to take themselves but take anyway, in order to be able to go on holiday, to be able to work, in short, not to become a pariah in social life?

The doctor gets a pat on the back (and a fee) for each injection given, so he likes to have that shot in the books.

The healthy citizen in front of him also likes to have that jab in the books, but actually prefers not to have it in his shoulder. As long as he can go on holiday.

Left drawer or right drawer?

They have a common interest. So what happens then? We'll never know until we start testing the entire population for vaccine residue. (Which, according to top scientist Dijkgraaf, is not possible, because he has explained to us that that mRNA jab flutters out of your body 'just like a snapchat'. Within fifteen minutes or so, in any case very quickly. A miracle. And it works much better than We had dared to dream!)

Bad batches?

To characterize a national character in this way has something dangerous and at the same time something romantic; You could make a feel-good movie out of it. But there is more: the batch numbers, for example. The quality of the Covid vaccines is very variable. Batches differ from each other and the same batches have different safety profiles in different regions.

The quality is not monitored and vaccines produced in this way have never been approved. There are huge differences between batches and even between batches from the same batch! You can read more about studies on this in the US, Sweden, the Czech Republic and Denmark in a previous article.

Perhaps the Belgian and Dutch jabs came from different suppliers, the output of which has never been tested, and the Dutch have had a bad batch (a few?) times, which has been bothering them ever since. Or they use different cooling systems, different ways of storing and transporting, which made the Dutch jabs more harmful.

Surely there must be something to be found that explains why excess mortality in the Netherlands is three times as high as in Belgium. The Netherlands: an average of 13% excess mortality, Belgium: 4%.

Source: Eurostat.

Is it the environmental pollution that a large part of the Dutch lives in and has that interacted with something else that was not there before 2021?

Has that pollution suddenly only worsened in the Netherlands in 2021?

Did they turn on 5G!? But what about Belgium?

Anyone who has an explanation for the fact that excess mortality in the Netherlands is three times as high as in Belgium is welcome to say so. Since (mid) 2021, not to forget. Prior to that, also during the corona waves in 2020, it was more or less the same.

Below are the average excess mortality rates since April 2021, per month, with trend lines that give way (see Eurostat chart). The trend line of Belgium is decreasing, the difference with the Netherlands is only increasing...

And no: it's not about the expectation that can vary from country to country. Below you can see that both OurWorldInData and Eurostat see the same thing. They calculate an expectation themselves. On both sites, the baselines of all countries have been made comparable with each other.

Source: Our World in Data.
Source: Eurostat.

Only when we have all the figures transparent can we perhaps start to understand why 'outlier' Sweden suffers less from excess mortality, where the difference between the Netherlands and neighboring Belgium comes from and more of that crazy thing.

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8 Comments
  1. Armin
    Armin the 30/10/2024 at 00:29

    When you look at age categories, you see that the difference between the Netherlands and Belgium only occurs in two places: 1) an undermortality of children under the age of 14 in Belgium (although these will probably be too small numerically to play a major role in the overall trend), and 2) an excess mortality in the 75+ population.
    How active is/were people with vaccinations in Belgium? If more elderly people there took the left drawer, that might be an explanation. But in any case, the cause apparently lies in the larger number of elderly people who are now dying.

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    1. c
      c the 30/10/2024 at 10:53

      What I do know is that there is much more vaccination in Flanders than on the other side of the country (the French speakers and immigrants were more critical) and/or left-handed, the latter I have also heard from my family and acquaintances there. More could also be done in schools without the principal getting into trouble (or being afraid of it). Other than that, it was just as crazy as here, unfortunately. The strangest incident was the death of the man Marc van R. acquaintances let their hunting dogs out every day! in the forest/area where the man was found and declare that they are sure that the man was not there before... I really hope that the bottom stone will come out. Thanks again for the article and perhaps the figures of the vaccination coverage in the different language areas and the big cities will bring more clarity.

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  2. Godfather
    Godfather the 31/10/2024 at 09:20

    Or did the Belgians make a hefty correction to the calculated excess mortality 2 years ago, see kink in graph?

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    1. Anton Theunissen
      Anton Theunissen the 31/10/2024 at 10:01

      No, both OWID and Eurostat calculate the excess mortality themselves on the basis of the mortality figures provided by Belgium.

      For the Belgian calculation of excess mortality, you have to check with sciensano. That's pretty much the same. For example:
      https://www.sciensano.be/en/biblio/analyse-van-de-oversterfte-de-zomer-van-2023

      The RIVM excess mortality calculation is a lot more reassuring than the NL excess mortality calculated by OWID and Eurostat. They are more like https://sterftemonitor.nl

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  3. Pyotr
    Pyotr the 31/10/2024 at 10:19

    Twee vragen die je dan kunt stellen om een duidelijkere relatie inenten/ oversterfte vast te stellen: Is de oversterfte nog (vooral) lager in Wallonië en Brussel waar de vaccinatiegraad beduidend lager was dan in Vlaanderen?
    Is de werkelijke vaccinatiegraad in Wallonië ( Brussel) nog lager ten opzichte van Vlaanderen en Nederland omdat in het zuiden van België nog meer gesjoemeld wordt dan in Vlaanderen?

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  4. Hans Himself
    Hans Himself the 03 / 11 / 2024 to the 11: 49

    I'm looking for some advice on whether or not to do vaccinations.

    Ik ben 61 jaar oud. Ik ben ietsjes te zwaar. 93 kg bij 189 cm. Mijn gezondheid is goed en mijn conditie is redelijk.

    Because of my age, I have been invited for 3 vaccinations.

    Corona Vaccination:
    • Daar is natuurlijk geen twijfel over: De Corona vaccinatie is een MRNA-vaccin en die neem ik uiteraard niet.
    • Het is nu toch wel algemeen bekend dat de bijwerkingen niet opwegen tegen de eventuele minieme en kortdurende bescherming van de corona griep.

    Flu Vaccination:
    • Die sla ik ook over.
    • Ik heb eigenlijk nooit griep en ben eigenlijk ook nooit verkouden.
    • Wat zou dan de toegevoegde waarde van de griepprik zijn ?

    Pneumococcal vaccination:
    • Hierover twijfel ik nog.
    • De huisarts heeft niet gereageerd op mijn verzoek tot informatie. De assistente wist alleen te vertellen dat het hier niet om een MRNA vaccin gaat. Een bijsluiter was niet beschikbaar.

    What now?
    • Ik beschouw mezelf niet als wappie. Mijn gele boekje puilt uit van de vaccinatiestempels. Ik reis nu eenmaal graag. En ik vind vaccinaties tegen ziektes zoals polio en rabiës nog steeds een goede zaak.
    • Maar, ik heb de studies van de heer Steigstra goed gevolgd en ik weet dat de MRNA-vaccins gewoon niet deugen. Mijn vertrouwen in het RIVM is inmiddels tot ver onder het nulpunt gedaald.
    • Na de corona campagne ben ik uiteindelijk ook terughoudend geworden in het klakkeloos accepteren van andere reguliere vaccins.

    So now I am just looking for objective and reliable advice about the advantages and disadvantages of pneumococcal vacination.

    Mijn vraag is dus: kan iemand mij adviseren ver nut en noodzaak van deze pneumokokken-vaccinatie ?

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    1. Godfather
      Godfather op 05/11/2024 om 16:26

      Denk het niet:
      https://www.radboudumc.nl/nieuws/2015/pneumokokkenvaccin-leidt-tot-opkomst-andere-pneumokokken

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      1. Hans himself.
        Hans himself. op 05/11/2024 om 16:40

        Bedankt Peter !

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