"Mortality of young vaccinated people rises alarmingly, cause unknown"
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indeed, those figures from the ONS are not correct.
https://jdee.substack.com/p/age-standardised-annualised-all-cause?utm_source=email&s=r
Hello Jan,
Not everything is correct from ONS, but those are different figures. I didn't want to use those "person-years" and "age-standardization" figures for various reasons.
Therefore, no statements are made in the article that require that kind of calculation. For this article, I only used 'raw data': counts of deaths and specified sizes of age groups ("Count of Deaths" and "Population"). The age groups remain compartmentalized, the vaccination statuses are not divided into Doses 1, 2, 3, and 4. If you do, it suddenly becomes a lot more complicated.
The problem is that the sizes of age groups are not known.
of the vaccinated and count of deaths, but not of the unvaccinated and population.
in addition, the question is, as of when someone counts as vaccinated for the US, the date of the shot or any date, two weeks?, after?
Good questions Jan, that is spread over previous posts about the UK data, but in short: I used the data from data.gov.uk: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations?areaType=nation&areaName=England At the bottom of the page, download button below the purple graph. It is what it is...
— The causes of death could give direction to this, but we do not find out, even the members of the sounding board group that investigates the excess mortality are not allowed to see that data. That at least gives the appearance of self-protection of the policymakers. —
I would like to turn it around... Without transparent data, I have to assume that vaccinations are the main cause of the excess mortality achieved. It is then up to the authorities to prove the opposite. And as long as that doesn't happen, I suspect our government of planned genocide.
I feel you, but "without transparent data I have to assume" – who should do that... Someone is innocent yoy the contrary has been proven. But I also feel that way, I have written it that way in an earlier article, hoping to provoke someone. Nothing. I only scare people off because of the tone. So I moderate it a bit, every now and then.
The result is that I have lost all confidence in our government, no confidence that it has our best interests at heart, no longer even feel the need to participate in this society. In a month we will move to Curaçao where it is actually not much better, but at least without a technocratic EU and with an even more corrupt government that does not make a dent in a packet of butter. We just go back 20 years in time and I like that prospect.
Today I heard from an emigration official that there are currently an exceptional number of Dutch people emigrating to Curaçao and Bonaire...
In my opinion, this is still a medical experimental treatment that is being forced on the population.
Proper monitoring and transparency about the data seems mandatory and punishable if this does not happen.
So I also assume that the vaccines are the cause of the excess mortality, especially because we see the same picture in other countries. So it is indeed up to the government to monitor everything properly and to make this data available to science in full transparency. I would rather not have the government interfere with the interpretation of the data. I would rather see a public scientific debate, then the population can make a better choice afterwards. This also prevents conspiracy thinking.
The calculations that Steven Kirsch shows again and again show that the argument that the vaccine saves more lives than it costs is very unlikely to hold water. Therefore, no justification can be found for the use of the experimental drug of, for example, Pfizer. Moreover, it also seems that Kreutzfeldt-Jacob-like phenomena are occurring, on a previously unknown scale, due to vaccination with that junk from Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson. How on earth can the thunder of the pharmaceutical companies pass for SCIENCE when there is a deluge of evidence that goes against their usual mantra
I don't know either. We'll just hang in there!
I just listened to the conversation between Dr Brett Weinstein and Dr Robert Malone (see Spotity, Dark horse podcast). Is largely about the effect and side effects of the injectable products, but also about the evolution of the virus.
Tough stuff, but very worthwhile.
The number of injection deaths is most likely much, much higher. For example, younger inoculations that were mostly around from summer 2021 onwards were noted as uninoculated well over half the time of the remaining 6.5 months if they were given two shots. With one shot, two weeks, also with the boosters at the beginning of this year. The figures are further polluted, because people who are known to die very soon do not get a shot. Even if they did get an injection and died shortly afterwards, they were considered unvaccinated. Furthermore, many seriously ill people who use certain medications and/or follow chemotherapy are not vaccinated. The same applies to people with certain serious diseases.
Everyone here is counted as vaccinated from the first injection. There are also vulnerable people who are now more vaccinated. All fairly marginal, it will not cause these differences easily, I guess. Try to calculate it if you think it is lamgrijk.
I thought they were counted from the jab, but that if they died within two weeks of a jab, they were still counted as unvaccinated.
The UK data also includes deaths within 21 days of the first shot. Whether that has happened the same in all countries is impossible to say. This article only shows the official data. I'm not going to correct it.
The conversation between Bret Weinstein and Geert van den Bossche is still going on in my opinion.
"What has been the cause of those extra deaths among vaccinated people? What else do those vaccinated people have in common that unvaccinated people don't have in common and/or vice versa?"
This is of course a good question. Could it be, for example, that healthy people are more likely to say: "I don't take a 'vaccine' because I don't need it" and that unhealthy people are more likely to take it. If that jab then does little, more jabbed people die than unjabbed.
Justified reservations. Some counter-questions:
1) Is the idea that people themselves have about their own health or resistance to the virus correct? Perhaps many imagine themselves to be strong.
2) Aren't many healthy people unjustly frightened, which in turn cancels out that effect?
3) If 90% of an age group has been vaccinated, does that still apply (to that extent)?
4) Would that explain the observed differences at all, do you quantitatively achieve those numbers and percentages with that?
Could it be that the people who died within three weeks of the first shot only received/needed to have one shot (Janssen) and they all died after two weeks?
Would like some substantiation why that would be the case... Coming up with scenarios is one thing, but making them plausible is part of it.
It was just a question. Only if it is clear to all those who died within three weeks that they had to get an extra shot within a few months and people have also died and noted within two weeks of the first shot, then my question does not need to be asked. If that is not clear, the argument says; The calculations also include people who died within three weeks, not all.
It is explicitly stated as such in the source files, so, well... Then I'll just take it.
"The causes of death could give direction to this, but we do not find out".
For this we can use another official source, the US army (Defense Medical Surveillance System DMED). Unfortunately, their data set was falsified (or accidentally reconstructed incorrectly after a convenient data crash?), but with the help of archive.org and other people like you, we can figure it out, as discussed in another blog:
https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/defining-away-vaccine-safety-signals-82f
I have my doubts about this approach with 2 datasets. The ONS dataset Table2 lists the person-years of the various vaccination statuses. These can easily be converted to population (for a total of 15 months of data, this is person-years/15*12, per month person-years/days-month*365). And then you come to a population of 11.17M on average for 18-39 year olds. Of these, 6.25M with status "ever vaccinated" and 4.92M "unvaccinated". With the number of deaths of 3000 and 2848 respectively, upscaled from "unvaccinated" would come to 3619, so 619 more died "unvaccinated" compared to "ever vaccinated".
Status Deaths sum person-years
First dose, at least 21 days ago 839 1420083
First dose, less than 21 days ago 166 523734
Second dose, at least 21 days ago 1476 3807614
Second dose, less than 21 days ago 97 498587
Third dose or booster, at least 21 days ago 368 1222889
Third dose or booster, less than 21 days ago 54 320204 Popavg Upscaled
Unvaccinated 2848 6132176 4919218 3619
Overall all statuses 5848 13925287 11170835
Ever (calculated Overall – Unvaccinated) 3000 7793111 6251617 3000
hoe weten ze in engeland hoeveel mensen er niet gevaccineerd zijn?
ze weten niet eens hoeveel mensen er in totaal zijn.
Dat staat in table2 aangegeven als person-years voor de status “unvaccinated”. En alle statussen opgeteld zijn person-years van de populatie waarop de data is gebaseerd. Of dat de juiste aantallen zijn. daar ga ik niet over. Als je de populatie per maand berekend zoals aangegeven is dit het populatieverloop (allen 18-39jaar):
Month Pop
January 11214354
February 11207742
March 11200779
April 11193808
May 11186791
June 11179695
July 11173262
August 11167587
September 11161846
October 11157143
November 11153196
December 11148972
January 11143273
February 11139253
March 11135502
@Harry: That check is correct, I believe that immediately. But if I look at the actual (officially reported) vaccination percentages across the entire population, the picture looks different. So what goes wrong, those official vaccination percentages or the Person-year calculations? In addition, I only need those person-years if I want to add or average cohorts. I deliberately don't do that. The definition of "vaccinated" has also changed over time (1 or 2 shots, minimum number of weeks after the shot). That is why I have chosen "everyone with at least 1 shot = vaccinated". It may well be that you will achieve different results with this. Then the results with my definition of vaccinated/unvaccinated and the official percentages will still hold up, it seems to me.
De nieuwe sterftecijfers voor de week 22 van het CBS.
https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/maatwerk/2022/23/overledenen-per-week-provincie-en-gemeente-week-22-2022
De geen van de gebruikelijke gegevens voor week 22. Week 21 komt op 2881 sterfgevallen maar blijft onder de 2958 95% onzekerheidsmarge.