A one-and-a-half-hour interview with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, shown on YouTube, biedt alle input die nodig is voor een erg overtuigend deep fake filmpje. De stem en de gezichtsuitdrukkingen worden AI-geprocessed en het systeem kan vervolgens op basis van een getikte of ingesproken tekst een overtuigende video renderen waarin Netanyahu samenvattend teksten uitspreekt als: "Ik heb Bourla aangeboden om de bevolking van Israël te gebruiken als proefpersonen voor het Pfizer vaccin." Nou ja - bijna overtuigend dan want de schokkerige filmpjes op 'complotplatforms' Rumble en Bitchute zijn zeer lage resolutie en het geluid loopt niet helemaal sync. Het lijkt alsof er wat artefacten van de AI onzichtbaar moesten blijven. 'Slordig knip- en plakwerk' werd het hier en daar al genoemd. Maar toch: als dit deep fake is, is het angstwekkend. Kijk zelf:
Deep fake...
...of toch echt?
OK, de premier geeft een twee uur durend interview voor een groot online kanaal met bijna 1 miljoen abonnees. Wel onder de voorwaarde dat het hele interview eerst wordt goedgekeurd door zijn afdeling Publieke Communicatie, die moet kijken of alles past in de gekozen strategie. Ze spreken af dat een lage-resolutie versie voor akkoord heen en weer wordt gestuurd. Zo gezegd zo gedaan. Na het comprimeren van twee uur video blijkt de kwaliteit wel slecht en de audio hapert wat, maar goed genoeg voor een inhoudelijke keuring. Dan blijken er toch een paar fragmenten in te zitten waarover de communicatie-adviseurs hun twijfels hebben. Het bovenstaande fragment is er één van. Niemand durft Netanyahu echt bij te praten over de effecten van zijn deal ("dat leggen we u nog wel een keer uit") maar dat fragment wordt toch uit de definitieve versie geknipt die uiteindelijk is posted on YouTube. Maar: het lowres-filmpje is er ook nog... en een eruitgeknipt fragment wordt gelekt door een van de communicatie-adviseurs die zijn politieke sympathieën toch net wat anders heeft liggen dan hij vertelde tijdens zijn sollicitatiegesprek.
A controversial position
Het filmpje dateert van enkele maanden geleden, dec. '22. Wat Netanyahu zegt komt er op neer dat zijn geliefde Joodse volk mag worden gebruikt voor medische experimenten ("Nou en, de vaccins zijn tóch veilig" hoor ik menigeen er al bij denken.) Maar dat ligt natuurlijk supergevoelig - en dat is een eufemisme: het is een schandaal. Precies om dit te voorkomen zijn de Nuremberg Code and the Helsinki Declaration drafted and accepted worldwide.
And why don't we hear from CIDI about this abuse of the Israeli population?
Precisely to prevent this, the Nuremberg Code and the Helsinki Declaration drafted and accepted worldwide.
What we also learn from it is that political leaders have lined up in front of the pharmaceutical companies' sales counter. Earlier I wrote that the pharmaceutical companies might have been pressured by governments. Back then, I underestimated the power of Big Pharma.
It is slightly different: they have had to seduce the pharmaceutical companies with hundreds of billions, revenue guarantees and exemptions from responsibility. As a pharmaceutical company, you then stroke your heart and promise the delivery of an imperfect half-tested product of which you do not even have the mass production in order yet. You're not at risk.
Risico's? Dat moeten de advocaten van beide partijen maar met elkaar regelen. Netanyahu zag de verantwoordelijkheid voor eventueel verwoeste levens als een formele bijkomstigheid, iets dat je juridisch geregeld moet hebben. De beslissing is genomen na persoonlijke telefoontjes met Bourla, zo regel je dingen: doortastend, in goed vertrouwen, aristocraten onder elkaar. Het afhandelen van mogelijk volks gezeur achteraf is advocatenwerk. Zo ga je dus over mensenlevens denken als je veel macht hebt.
Zouden andere bewindspersonen er zoveel anders in hebben gestaan? Denk eens aan onze Hugo de Jonge, Rutte, Kuipers, noem ze allemaal maar op... Allemaal grenzeloos vertrouwen, niet alleen in farmaceuten maar vooral in instituties en overheids- en EU-instanties als FDA en EMA. Daar worden immers de poten verankerd van ladder waarop ze zelf omhoog geglibberd zijn. Terwijl ze allemaal moeten hebben gevoeld dat het eigenlijk niet kon wat ze aan het doen waren. Hoewel: Netanyahu is er nog steeds trots op. Eind 2022. Hun morele kompas is gewoon anders gericht. Anders was hun carrière waarschijnlijk ook niet zo gladjes verlopen.
The Fake Check
I posted the lowres video on Facebook because I couldn't imagine it was deep fake. First of all, the gestures and intonation were amazingly good, but deep fake is used to make people say things they would normally never say. Is that so? If you look at what Netanyahu says in interviews, that's not the case.
The Guardian:
op zaterdagavond zei de premier, Benjamin Netanyahu, dat hij een toezegging van het farmaceutische bedrijf had gekregen om de leveringen te vervroegen in ruil voor de verstrekking van "statistische gegevens" door Israël - waardoor het land in feite een massale testcase wordt om te zien hoe vaccins de pandemie kunnen stoppen.
"Als onderdeel van de overeenkomst met Pfizer hebben we besloten dat Israël een wereldwijde modelstaat zal zijn voor de snelle vaccinatie van een heel land," zei hij, eraan toevoegend dat Israël gegevens met de wereld zal delen die "zullen helpen bij de ontwikkeling van strategieën om het coronavirus te verslaan". Pfizer heeft de deal niet onafhankelijk bevestigd.
Article from Haaretz.com/israel-news
Kortom, waarom zou je een deep fake video maken van iemand die een kernachtige samenvatting geeft van een standpunt dat we eigenlijk al van hem kennen - of hadden kunnen kennen?
And what about the interviewer, Jordan Peterson? Had the basic series but now a staunch opponent of the boosters. As a Canadian, he focuses on Trudeau:
So, suppose it's not a deep fake, would Jordan Peterson have been willing to cut out that piece?
Well, well for the public version. Or they did that at YouTube, but that seems strong to me. On streaming service Daily Wire+, the complete interview, including the offending excerpt, is simply behind a paywall. at Jordan Peterson online, time code 1:47:27 to 1:48:27. In passing, Netanyahu also unfolds his plans for a central genetic database that a gigantic industry can work with etc. etc.
Knetter, als je 't mij vraagt, die mensen hebben niet meer in de gaten met wat voor bom ze zitten spelen. Het lijken wel virologen met een virus.
Het is dus niet alleen Big Pharma die we moeten wantrouwen. We kunnen ook niet meer van democratisch gekozen leiders op aan, al helemaal niet als er verkiezingen in aantocht zijn. Als Netanyahu op deze manier met zijn eigen geliefde Joodse volk omgaat en denkt dat hij ze beschermt en welvaart brengt (en zo stemmen kan winnen), dan is dat een teken aan de wand. Waarom zouden niet meer politici er zo over denken? Ik hoor de tegenwerpingen al: "Dat gebeurt hier niet." Oh nee? Met een EU en een WEF waar de bestuurslagen elkaar opzoeken, schouderklopjes geven, 06-nummers uitwisselen, angst aanjagen?
WEF? What does that have to do with it?
Well this WEF video for example of Netanyahu at an online Davos-2021 meeting. In any case, watch for a few seconds from 4:40 (short clip on the right). Exactly the same story about his Unique Selling Point: "We hebben aangeboden onze digitale informatie te delen met Pfizer om te begrijpen wat de effecten zijn van massale inenting". Weliswaar geen individuele info, zo benadrukt hij, maar als zo'n leider het in zijn kop krijgt moet ik nog zien wat er gebeurt.
The complete WEF video can be found here. The price didn't matter, it just requires personal leadership to get things going, Bibi believes. Twenty-one times called Bourla, you know, the guy who got so excited with Ursula von der Leyen about multibillion-dollar SMS-te. Personal leadership at its best.
In any case, there is no democratic, legal or budget-technical process involved, that much is clear. Now this man may still be somewhat sensible (?) but what if a slightly lesser god, think of a Hugo the Younger, had been in his place?
I haven't heard any worrisome noises from the Davos audience. The WEF talk show host, Børge Brende, President of the World Economic Forum, didn't move a muscle either. It is apparently normal in those circles to deal with populations in this way. The constituency is becoming increasingly unimportant. Supervision and control only get in the way.
The philosophical pillars have largely disappeared in our system, but man is simply a social animal and species seeks kind. The clumping of the power bubble is the greatest danger of our time: concentration of power.
Ik wou afsluiten met "Dat gaat een keer fout." Maar het is helaas al fout gegaan.
Nothing electronic Deep Fake. It's reality and we're in the middle of it.
"We can't rely on the great leaders anymore." ... Natanyahu great leader? Hhhmmmmm... And besides, that's exactly why serious democracy is so important now.
Those leaders have to. all are kept in check. Especially the ones that have been there for a long time. That seems to me to be at the heart of the idea of democracy. That it is handled in this way 'our' (not mine!) LIJERS is as telling as it is unsurprising in my eyes.
You have a point. I changed "big" to "democratically elected"
An important characteristic of fascism is close cooperation between companies and government without knowing the " people ".
How should we characterize Netanyahu's actions?
@Hans ... what about the WEF? There, the private telephone numbers are exchanged between the two sectors. Humans are social creatures!
@Anton. You are right about the comment that people are social beings and therefore behave socially, but unfortunately that often applies mainly within their own circle (OSM or our kind of people).
Outside of that, (to put it bluntly) anyone can fall dead and, if necessary, a helping hand can be given
Yes, I also make a comment about that in the article. It is precisely because of the disappearance of vertical (compartmentalized) connections in society that people start to clump together on other levels. So that is no longer vertical, across all walks of life (think religion) but rather by class. The layer itself becomes the connecting element.
I am not going to defend any head of government or minister or administrator, certainly not when it comes to the policy and measures during Corona ... but as a politically responsible person you are completely dependent on your civil servants. And there was (is?) the greatest evil. In our country, the influence (say quiet power) of the top (dg's and sg's) is enormous and that will not be much different in other western countries. They can make or break a leader. All Corona measures by Rutte, De Jonge and Grapperhaus came from the official policy chute, whereby the institutes (such as RIVM) were forced to pour a 'scientific sauce' over them.
The warning of the loss of 520,000 QALYs also came from the official box.
With 'personal leadership', that has been set aside, as well as motions, fire letters. Those in charge had a blinkered policy on the signals they didn't want to see. That distracted from the goal they had set for themselves.
The civil service cannot suddenly be mobilised in a different direction. Unfortunately not. Whoever is out of step there also has a problem.
The report on the 520,000 QUAY's is a perfect example of the influence of the top officials. It is an internal document, drawn up by EZK, which was handed over to the Minister (Wiebes), with the ADVICE not to discuss this in the Council of Ministers or the OMT. And so it happened...
https://open.overheid.nl/documenten/ronl-a8fb40d6-fce3-4ef6-a162-91aff61446b8/pdf
"with the ADVICE not to discuss this in the Council of Ministers or the OMT" – did that come from a WOB request or something? I missed that. Do you have a link to this?
@Anton: Not a document, but your own interpretation. If a piece goes into the minister's bag, there is always advice on how to act with it politically: 1. do/do not discuss in the Council of Ministers 2. do/do not inform the House of Representatives. Since neither has happened, my interpretation is that this has been negatively advised.
Below is a link to article from the New York Post about the influence of officials on the corona file. Things will not have gone any differently in our country than in the US, I suppose.
https://nypost.com/2023/02/27/10-myths-told-by-covid-experts-now-debunked/
Well, you can also interpret that RIVM or Kaag has gone for it. Or Grapperhaus. Why not the Young one himself? "We just can't use that right now. Just unrest."
In the NYP article, I only see a list of ignored science by "Public Health Officials":
"When a study did not support their policies, they dismissed it and censored opposing opinions."
I don't read anything about officials advising to do something a certain way. Am I overlooking it?
Victims sometimes become perpetrators.
You are absolutely right about that. I'll be lectured below. I should be ashamed. But Tiergarten 4 was not carried out by the Nazis but by the German medical profession. This led to the murder of the mentally handicapped, the physically handicapped, psychiatric patients and forced sterilizations. Hitler was absolutely clear that Germans with heart and lung problems would also fall under this type of program. Eventually, this culminated in a low point of medical experiments in concentration camps. The Nuremberg Code and the Helsinki protocal are a reaction to these crimes committed against Jews in particular. The fact that 80 years later a prime minister of a Jewish state is subjected to a medical experiment can be called a gospe. And why? It will be about money and power again.
Umwertung aller Werten. The Jews became the Nazis. Otherwise, I can't make sense of it.
"The Jews have become the Nazis."
Getver @Leonardo, bit scary statement, where's the nuance?
Shame on you!
Netanyahu used his deal with Pfizer as an election tune.
He obsessively called Bourla 30 times.
https://www.thejc.com/comment/columnists/finally-it-arrived-the-year-bibi-lost-1.520061?reloadTime=1674000000011
"Bourla had given Netanyahu a political lifeline.
Faced with rising Covid-19 cases and elections in March, the prime minister stuck to Pfizer's vaccine as his best hope of staying in office.
By Stephanie Bakker,Cynthia Koons and Vernon Silver
4 March 2021
"It's not every day that a government leader goes to the airport to greet a cargo shipment, but the pandemic has changed a lot of things.
On Jan. 10, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu drove in a motorcade to Ben Gurion International Airport, southeast of Tel Aviv, to watch a shipment of 700,000 vaccine doses from Pfizer Inc. come out of a blue-and-white El Al Boeing 787-9.
As he stood on the tarmac, he boasted that 72% of Israelis over 60 had already been vaccinated, thanks to shipments that began in early December, and that more doses would soon be coming.
That was because he had made a deal with Bourla to use his country as a test case for Pfizer's vaccine.
In the end, he won that race.
Thanks to the deal with Mr. Bourla, restaurants and bars, concert halls and sports stadiums in Israel began reopening, three weeks before Israelis went to the polls.
And as they opened, public approval for his handling of the pandemic also began to rise.
The distribution of vaccines still has the feel of a zero-sum game.
Five days after Netanyahu's victory round, Pfizer told other non-U.S. customers it would halt deliveries in the short term while briefly closing its vaccine plant in Belgium for an upgrade.
When the vaccine began to have its liberating effect, Israel was deep into its fourth election season in less than two years, and the jabs were at the heart of Netanyahu's campaign.